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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30286

    #16
    Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
    And why is it down to the listening audience to "suggest" forgotten or obscure material (the Onslow for example)? If the presenter is more than just a disc jokey wouldn't she be researching and playing such material off her own back? Or is it all part of the exercise to make R3 more "inclusive" (text, email in please)?
    Or, in the words of Mickey Rooney: 'Hey kids, why don't we put on a show?'
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • kuligin
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 230

      #17
      The Lotte Lehmann banter was the final straw this morning, after the two isolated movements of Mozart and Onslow, so I missed that rare treat a complete piece.

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      • mikerotheatrenestr0y

        #18
        Praise again for Perfectly Normal Productions [and presumably for R3 for having chosen them as an outsource]; one whole work, Hogwood's Surprise; a Palestrina motet; Emil von Sauer playing Schumann movt. 1; Cherubini String 4tet movt. [all six are fun]; Spohr, one movt. from 9et; Richard Strauss, Rosenkavalier Waltzes [counts as a whole work]; Hovhaness; Shostakovich Prelude and Fugue; and, shattering that mood [as an amuse-bouche, like the Trenet that so annoyed Bach-worshippers the other week, but actually gave me great pleasure], a Frenchman singing "But not for me". Nothing, I submit, hackneyed, and the only chat was about musicians' accidents [cellist's fingertip, stolen Strad] - so, it was a wholly acceptable soundtrack to my Sunday morning. Just wish the washing-up and cleaning had been as interesting.

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        • Bax-of-Delights
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 745

          #19
          Intersting comment by Suzy Klein this morning concerning the Reger Sextet. A listener had emailed in to say that it was about time this piece was played again as it had to be many years since it was heard on R3. Ms.Klein answered that indeed it was and that, and I quote, "the notes here show that it was last played in November 2005". Would this not indicate that every piece of music stored in the archive has a "last played" date attached to it, just like the old library books with the date of last issue on the front endpaper?
          Which would lead us to the observation that there is indeed a "top 50" playlist that must be included in any week's output and that the presenters have very little choice (say 30%) in what they can play. The rest of it is scheduled by a central playlist committee perhaps?
          O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 20570

            #20
            My concern is that it is presumptuous to think that the population has time to listen to Radio 3 on a Sunday, having no idea what is going to be played for the vast majority of the day.

            Sunday Radio 3 has become rather like Sunday trains - avoid, but enjoy the rest of the week.

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            • mikerotheatrenestr0y

              #21
              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
              My concern is that it is presumptuous to think that the population has time to listen to Radio 3 on a Sunday, having no idea what is going to be played for the vast majority of the day.
              Sorry, but this is just NOT TRUE! On-line, everything seems to be listed, including the requests in the request programme, and even which bit of the B minor and by whom [pretty punctilious, considering]. Goodness knows what the physical Radio Times shows, granted, but the Great Dispenser of Information is dispensing it.

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30286

                #22
                Part of the problem is not knowing when/if the online schedule will be updated from its bare bones details to a full playlist. For next Sunday, neither Radio Times nor the online schedule has any details about the music (RT rather decorously refers to 'Suzy's concert of the week' whereas the the youthful R3 peeps talk of her 'gig of the week': neither details any music).
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20570

                  #23
                  Originally posted by mikerotheatrenestr0y View Post
                  Sorry, but this is just NOT TRUE! On-line, everything seems to be listed, including the requests in the request programme, and even which bit of the B minor and by whom [pretty punctilious, considering]. Goodness knows what the physical Radio Times shows, granted, but the Great Dispenser of Information is dispensing it.
                  If what you say is correct, you will have no difficulty in telling me what is going to be played next Sunday with the help of the online Radio schedule

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                  • mikerotheatrenestr0y

                    #24
                    Point taken - but I'm a hand-to-mouth person, and don't plan a week ahead in that kind of way - though EMS does tell you it's doing Fux, all the requests are there, both lots of Through the Night, and the midnight Saturday EMS is there in full, as well as Words and Music... is this nearly 50%? And Radio Times for next Sunday isn't available till Tuesday... [which is not to miniise the annoyance at not having access to information which has already been decided].

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26536

                      #25
                      Heroic presenting at the moment from Rob Cowan whose voice seems about to give out at any moment.

                      Although the croakiness is rather painful to listen to (and probably for RC to emit), laryngitis is a great way of confounding the demands of R3 powers-that-be for excessive inane chatter...

                      Someone get that man a triple-strength toddy!!
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • fugophile

                        #26
                        It is pleasing to note that Sunday Morning has not yet conceded entirely to inane chatter and twits... sorry, I meant tweets. If only Breakfast could be more like this. There was an excellent selection from the Second Viennese School today, presented by the ever-knowledgable Rob Cowan. A shadow of the populist agenda is, alas, still lurking in the incessant soliciting of listeners' opinions.

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                        • teamsaint
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 25209

                          #27
                          Originally posted by fugophile View Post
                          It is pleasing to note that Sunday Morning has not yet conceded entirely to inane chatter and twits... sorry, I meant tweets. If only Breakfast could be more like this. There was an excellent selection from the Second Viennese School today, presented by the ever-knowledgable Rob Cowan. A shadow of the populist agenda is, alas, still lurking in the incessant soliciting of listeners' opinions.
                          Caught some of it. A really nice surprise. Please somebody at R3, let RC loose do do a proper show of his own choosing.
                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                          • Thropplenoggin
                            Full Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 1587

                            #28
                            Rob Cowan seemed to be getting into the spirit of St. Patrick's Day this morning. I could have sworn he introduced today's cantata with an 'oirish' "jay-sus"!

                            Typically daring pronunciation of the German title, too, by RC - always a joy to hear - though not a patch on his rendering of 'Wachet Auf' mid-week.
                            It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #29
                              I missing this. I have some new cds to play!!
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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                              • Simon

                                #30
                                I was looking forward in hope to some Baroque when I switched on but I got Bartok's pointless discords. But then, bliss, the Rossini, and of course Ireland.

                                And now, having been forced to miss PP due to a visitor, its Ms Bott, with Monteverdi's operas. Poppea to come, no less!

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