In Tune

[french frank]

Bachianas Brasilieras".

Did she helpfully write it down so that they would spell it correctly? Or just pronounce it very carefully?

[Richard Tarleton]

Did she helpfully write it down so that they would spell it correctly? Or just pronounce it very carefully?

And of all the things she might have mentioned to make her point - why that?????

[Pulcinella]

Did she helpfully write it down so that they would spell it correctly? Or just pronounce it very carefully?

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I usually spell it incorrectly too, to be fair: it's actually Bachianas Brasileiras.

[Richard Tarleton]

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I usually spell it incorrectly too, to be fair: it's actually Bachianas Brasileiras.

My bad - not that that was my point, particularly (if you're used to Spanish, Portuguese looks a bit odd - although the Spanish is brasilero/a, so that's no excuse). A reliable inside source at R3 a while back had sight of KD's heavily highlighted and annotated scripts on which tricky pronunciations were written out phonetically.

[french frank]

My bad - not that that was my point, particularly (if you're used to Spanish, Portuguese looks a bit odd - although the Spanish is brasilero/a, so that's no excuse). A reliable inside source at R3 a while back had sight of KD's heavily highlighted and annotated scripts on which tricky pronunciations were written out phonetically.

I did wonder - Rob used to say brasilieras quite regularly.

[Serial_Apologist]

And of all the things she might have mentioned to make her point - why that?????

She might have been referring to them collectively, I s'pose...

[Cockney Sparrow]

.......A reliable inside source at R3 a while back had sight of KD's heavily highlighted and annotated scripts on which tricky pronunciations were written out phonetically........

She is similar to Sue Lawley in that respect - annoying, precious, self satisified (perhaps I am imagining this last); mind you, she, and presenters generally must be mindful that they are being monitored by certain activists who object to incorrect pronunciation.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Switching on the radio, before In Tune began, was a mistake. I generally avoid Radio 3's verbal padding programmes, but it was convenient do so.


I've heard Katie Derham being artificially sincerely, artificially upbeat, artificially friendly and artificially enthusiastic on so many occasions, but today's demonstration of all of the above was in a totally different dimension. It was so embarrassing to witness the depth to which some presenters are prepared to go in order to attain the level of LCD.

Is this a result of Scala Radio's influence? It could be.

Or is it just a further erosion of standards by the BBC's formerly premier station?

I suspect the latter. Even those who think presenters should try to be relaxed and informal are unlikely to be impressed by one who displays the maturity of a giggling schoolgirl one minute, following this with comments worthy of a 5 year-old.


Badly done, BBC. Badly done!

[DracoM]

...........and that way OTT presenting of the Pavel Haas Qt prog the other lunchtime, including embarrassingly extensive PR prods for their records and future concerts.

Oh, yes, and BTW, they really did play too - Shostakovich, live, and rather well, but the presentational dressing...........erm..........not for me. Their playing was the best recommendation, and not the sucrose quasi-ecstasy of the BBC person.

[french frank]

a further erosion of standards by the BBC's formerly premier station?

I think the problem might have been that R3 stood out like a sore thumb for its excellence, so had to be brought back into line with the rest of the BBC's output which has to aim to be 'all things to all people' in order to be inclusive. That must make a certain amount of sense to them, I'd guess.

[Edgy 2]

...........and that way OTT presenting of the Pavel Haas Qt prog the other lunchtime, including embarrassingly extensive PR prods for their records and future concerts.

Oh, yes, and BTW, they really did play too - Shostakovich, live, and rather well, but the presentational dressing...........erm..........not for me. Their playing was the best recommendation, and not the sucrose quasi-ecstasy of the BBC person.

Yes,Sara Mohr-Pietsch has got form for this but it seems to apply more and more to all Radio 3 presenters.
I've taken to turning the volume down to a barely audible level until the music starts if I listen live and ffwd if on catch up

[LMcD]

...........and that way OTT presenting of the Pavel Haas Qt prog the other lunchtime, including embarrassingly extensive PR prods for their records and future concerts.

Oh, yes, and BTW, they really did play too - Shostakovich, live, and rather well, but the presentational dressing...........erm..........not for me. Their playing was the best recommendation, and not the sucrose quasi-ecstasy of the BBC person.

A brilliant description of a (regrettably) increasingly frequent feature of quite a lot of Auntie's output these days.

[oddoneout]

Switching on the radio, before In Tune began, was a mistake. I generally avoid Radio 3's verbal padding programmes, but it was convenient do so.


I've heard Katie Derham being artificially sincerely, artificially upbeat, artificially friendly and artificially enthusiastic on so many occasions, but today's demonstration of all of the above was in a totally different dimension. It was so embarrassing to witness the depth to which some presenters are prepared to go in order to attain the level of LCD.

Is this a result of Scala Radio's influence? It could be.

Or is it just a further erosion of standards by the BBC's formerly premier station?

I suspect the latter. Even those who think presenters should try to be relaxed and informal are unlikely to be impressed by one who displays the maturity of a giggling schoolgirl one minute, following this with comments worthy of a 5 year-old.


Badly done, BBC. Badly done!

But it's not dumbing down, as we are repeatedly told.

[cloughie]

Scala seems to have avoided recent commentary on the boards - anybody listened since the first couple of days?

[antongould]

Scala seems to have avoided recent commentary on the boards - anybody listened since the first couple of days?

No