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  • underthecountertenor
    Full Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 1584

    #91
    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
    I don't think that anyone would disagree with this.
    Hilarious. Congratulations.

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    • karajan666

      #92
      Sean Raffturdy on Friday - "Oh I smite my breath to contrition".
      What ever you're taking I don't want any of it. Seriously time you got a life.
      I think everyone prefers it when he says "Thank you...thank you very much indeed" every 5 minutes & God knows thats annoying enough.
      Time to never listen to it ever again I think.
      Perhaps they should rename the programme "Completely Out of Tune - with reality".

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30316

        #93
        Welcome karajan... erm... 666

        As your views are not dissimilar to those of others, on this forum and elsewhere, I though I'd try to even up the terrain. I found this. (Note, there is also one comment beneath the article).

        All I would say is that the Radio 3 schedule has been overhauled by Roger Wright to the extent that he has removed almost everything his predecessor, Nicholas Kenyon, introduced (and most that other predecessors introduced), one survivor being In Tune. And with the same presenter, now going into his 17th year.

        If 'refreshing the schedules' means anything at all, I would have rather seen In Tune dropped/replaced than Discovering Music. Or Jazz File. Or World Routes. Or the Wire. Or the Saturday Music Feature.

        But, there ... anything for an easy life, Mr W?
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • teamsaint
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 25210

          #94
          The other option with In Tune, of course would be to keep the good things, mostly the music, and improve the bad things.
          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30316

            #95
            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            The other option with In Tune, of course would be to keep the good things, mostly the music, and improve the bad things.
            Possible to start from scratch with a new programme.

            It is intended to be a "drivetime" show. Which in practice means a 'getting ready for supper' show, since only a minority, according to figures I saw some time back, are actually in their cars driving. The format itself of In Tune doesn't seem as downright-insulting-to-the-intelligence as Breakfast is. But a change of presentational style is surely overdue?
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • Padraig
              Full Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 4237

              #96
              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              The format itself of In Tune doesn't seem as downright-insulting-to-the-intelligence......
              It isn't, ff; but please spare us from an interrogation style of programme with a martinet who raps for attention from the rowdy element in the back row.
              SROK.

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              • teamsaint
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 25210

                #97
                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                Possible to start from scratch with a new programme.

                It is intended to be a "drivetime" show. Which in practice means a 'getting ready for supper' show, since only a minority, according to figures I saw some time back, are actually in their cars driving. The format itself of In Tune doesn't seem as downright-insulting-to-the-intelligence as Breakfast is. But a change of presentational style is surely overdue?
                Ok. how about:
                A thoughtful presenter who does research.
                More music and arts news.
                keep the live music.
                A n emphasis on new releases.
                A slot for "discovering chamber music", with a live performance.
                A competition with REAL prizes. (I like competitions with real prizes, and there are plenty of unsold seats at some concerts).


                I think the format of a magazine type show works well at this time of day but it needs some serious revision.
                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • Honoured Guest

                  #98
                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  It is intended to be a "drivetime" show. Which in practice means a 'getting ready for supper' show, since only a minority, according to figures I saw some time back, are actually in their cars driving.
                  "SUPPER!!" ???? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddr...ing-table.html

                  Ah, "drivetime" ... Cue reminiscences of Homeward Bound on medium wave and Open University on very high frequency. Nirvana for the older Friends of Radio 3.

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30316

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Honoured Guest View Post
                    Ah, "drivetime" ... Cue reminiscences of Homeward Bound on medium wave and Open University on very high frequency. Nirvana for the older Friends of Radio 3.
                    They may well remember it nostalgically since, as you will have read in your 'Humphrey Carpenter', p 305 "...there was absolutely no question of playing individual movements from a long work." Nostalgia, indeed

                    However, since very few of the Friends have any interest in joining a forum like this, I suppose we shan't know what they think.........
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • hmvman
                      Full Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 1109

                      This old-ish Friend of Radio 3 remembers Homeward Bound with very great affection…

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30316

                        Originally posted by hmvman View Post
                        This old-ish Friend of Radio 3 remembers Homeward Bound with very great affection…


                        Homeward Bound was replaced in 1980 by Mainly for Pleasure, introduced by a rota of different presenters. My information, extracted circuitously from Radio 3, was that, in 2003, less than 15% of 'drivetime' listeners were actually in their cars, though they were doing odds and ends around the house, until they sat down to listen to the concert.
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • Honoured Guest

                          That's the idea of the scheduling, isn't it? The evening (7.30 to 10.00) concert offers an opportunity for dedicated listening, as do the Lunchtime Concert and Afternoon music (1.00 to 4.30). So all the details of the music are announced in Radio Times and they're programmed as whole programmes, not as sequences.

                          Homeward Bound was the only classical programme with no playlist in Radio Times which emphasised that it was intended for casual listening, although the main reason may have been that it was also the only R3 programme broadcast only on medium wave.

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30316

                            Originally posted by Honoured Guest View Post
                            That's the idea of the scheduling, isn't it?
                            Yes. And as far as it goes, it's perfectly reasonable. However, it's possible to imagine an audience who, while listening carefully at some times of the day, will be listening less intently at other times - and remember that they are the same individuals, no matter at what time they're listening. And then there's a different audience (described as 'potential' listeners) who are deemed to be attracted as long as they hear familiar features like tweets, presenter chat, quizzes and trivia, and a regular diet of lighter content - an audience which Radio 3 (or at least The Third Programme) was not charged with serving because that audience had other stations serving their needs.

                            I'm not sure that the afternoon sequence is often something to sit down and give full attention to: that leaves the Lunchtime Concert (now often chopped about to produce miscellany from different concerts), the evening concert, perhaps Composer of the Week, as the remains of a formerly rich provision of daily classical music which educated its audience to a high level. Plus the odd programmes like The Early Music Show and Hear and Now. The mass of the daily classical output is aimed at attracting the potential/casual listener.
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Don Petter

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              ... perhaps Composer of the Week, as the remains of a formerly rich provision of daily classical music which educated its audience to a high level.

                              Not today, though, when we were told that Schubert's Quartettsatz was his 'Death and the Maiden' quartet.

                              (Not by Donald Mcleod, I hasten to add.)

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30316

                                Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
                                Not today, though, when we were told that Schubert's Quartettsatz was his 'Death and the Maiden' quartet.
                                I've already had an email to that effect. Still, the upside is that in a few years' time the R3 audience won't have a clue what's being played to them.
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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