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  • JasonPalmer
    Full Member
    • Dec 2022
    • 826

    Lovely edition this evening, katie sure can pick some lovely pieces of music for our entertainment.

    Katie Derham is joined by violinist Esther Yoo and pianist Jae Hong Park, playing live in the studio and Keelan Carew tells Katie about his cultural picks for the weekend.
    Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3...

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    • pastoralguy
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 7759

      Originally posted by JasonPalmer View Post
      Lovely edition this evening, katie sure can pick some lovely pieces of music for our entertainment.

      Katie Derham is joined by violinist Esther Yoo and pianist Jae Hong Park, playing live in the studio and Keelan Carew tells Katie about his cultural picks for the weekend.
      She did muddle up Mendelssohn’s ‘Reformation’ and ‘Scottish’ symphonies though. She played the new recording from the Scottish Chamber Orchestra and said they were playing the second movement from No.5 but we actually got No.3! Ah well…

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      • Ein Heldenleben
        Full Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 6780

        Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post

        She did muddle up Mendelssohn’s ‘Reformation’ and ‘Scottish’ symphonies though. She played the new recording from the Scottish Chamber Orchestra and said they were playing the second movement from No.5 but we actually got No.3! Ah well…
        Missed that! I thought the Vieuxtemps (?) Yankee Doodle piece was a lot of technical effort for very little musical reward. Very well played though.

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        • Ein Heldenleben
          Full Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 6780

          November the 14th and the first Rutter Xmas Carol (Angel’s Carol ) makes an appearance on In Tune. Isn’t that a tad early ?

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          • eighthobstruction
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 6438

            Ein H ....you hardly let the programme start....
            bong ching

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            • Ein Heldenleben
              Full Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 6780

              Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
              Ein H ....you hardly let the programme start....
              True but Nov 14th ! If you listen to a lot of R3 the amount of not very good Xmas music that’s played goes up every year. Not saying JR isn’t good but I’ve heard it all a thousand times. Wife’s choir is doing Shepherds Pipe this year as well….I gather the accompanist is finding the piano part a challenge.

              heigh Ho..

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37684

                Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                Ein H ....you hardly let the programme start....
                Well it is the rutting season, after all.

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                • eighthobstruction
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6438

                  ....ah yes....
                  bong ching

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
                    Full Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 6780

                    How lovely to hear a Frenchman - the organist Naji Hakim - pronouncing Messiaen’s name correctly six times with the final en as in enfant rather than the current inaccurate Messyann favoured by Radio 3 presenters including Katie Derham (who is usually very precise in her foreign pronunciation. )

                    Now that Naji , who succeeded Messiaen as Organist at L’Église de La Saint-Trinité, has pronounced authoritatively perhaps R3 can finally get his name right.

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                    • Pulcinella
                      Host
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 10933

                      Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                      How lovely to hear a Frenchman - the organist Naji Hakim - pronouncing Messiaen’s name correctly six times with the final en as in enfant rather than the current inaccurate Messyann favoured by Radio 3 presenters including Katie Derham (who is usually very precise in her foreign pronunciation. )

                      Now that Naji , who succeeded Messiaen as Organist at L’Église de La Saint-Trinité, has pronounced authoritatively perhaps R3 can finally get his name right.
                      Hakim's performance of Messiaen's La Nativité, recorded there, was a BBC MM CD (Vol 21, No 2):

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                      • smittims
                        Full Member
                        • Aug 2022
                        • 4150

                        I'm glad to hear that Katie Derham is precise in her pronunciation. If she were precise in her knowedge of classical music I'd feel we'd wasted less money on her.

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                        • Pulcinella
                          Host
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 10933

                          Originally posted by smittims View Post
                          I'm glad to hear that Katie Derham is precise in her pronunciation. If she were precise in her knowedge of classical music I'd feel we'd wasted less money on her.
                          Had the misfortune of hearing her last night: we're gonna listen to.....
                          AARGH!

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                          • LMcD
                            Full Member
                            • Sep 2017
                            • 8470

                            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

                            Had the misfortune of hearing her last night: we're gonna listen to.....
                            AARGH!
                            Dear me - I can't imagine Clive Myrie saying that sort of thing!

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                            • Ein Heldenleben
                              Full Member
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 6780

                              Originally posted by smittims View Post
                              I'm glad to hear that Katie Derham is precise in her pronunciation. If she were precise in her knowedge of classical music I'd feel we'd wasted less money on her.
                              By precise I meant to the point of actually slightly over doing it. She tends to go for the full accent in French, Spanish and Italian which made the Messiaen incident more telling. The majority of R3 presenters say -an rather than en at the end of his name. Given that he’s one of the most important composers of the 20th century and it’s French not Czech why can’t they get it right ? In French the word for child is pronounced enfon not anfon. There’s even a YouTube site ‘How To Pronounce French Composers’ Names’. I recommend it.

                              and bang on cue just had a Messyan from Georgia Mann.
                              Last edited by Ein Heldenleben; 08-12-23, 09:51.

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