Classic FM attacks Radio 3!

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  • MickyD
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 4756

    Classic FM attacks Radio 3!

    At last some press coverage of our plight, folks!!

  • kevmusic

    #2
    The station, which is predominantly listened to by those who are over 55, and middle class, was effectively told to find ways of finding younger and more minority audiences.
    How? By getting these groups to "enjoy" classical music? (Very difficult, but we keep R3.) Or by broadcasting music that already appeals to these groups? (Easy, but we lose R3 as we know it, Jim.)

    Alas, we already know the answer.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30283

      #3
      I see I'm quoted there. John Stevens, the reporter, contacted me yesterday about this 'story' which was reported in the Guardian. I told him I didn't want to be drawn into it as our policy was to deal directly with the BBC.

      He's taken that quote from a Feedback programme from some while back.

      He basically wanted a story about the BBC being attacked on all sides (never mind what it was about) and I didn't want anything to do with it, so I'm pretty unchuffed to find myself quoted. [Fortunately, I have a highly placed BBC personage to vouch for the response I gave, since it was copied to him.]
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30283

        #4
        Sorry to put a bit of a wet blanket on this story: as we'll recognise, some of us, there are points that we would agree with and we've put them to the BBC.

        But really, I don't want FoR3 to be associated in any way with this public rabble-rousing, skewed, inaccurate 'reporting'. I was asked to comment on Stephen Miron's claims, and when I asked for a link to the article referred to as I couldn't comment if I didn't know what he'd said, I was referred to this article in The Guardian, the detail relating to Radio 3 being:

        "But he accused the BBC of aping some of Global's output, specifically Radio 3 which has overhauled its schedule over the last 18 months.

        "If you look at the changing programmes Radio 3 has done against Classic, it is pretty overt that it has looked at the successes that Classic has had and adjusted its programming structure," Miron told the Radio Festival in Salford on Tuesday.


        The Mail's published article goes much further than that.

        I told John Stevens that it was a bit vague and I didn't wish to comment. My fear was that if I started detailing our criticisms I/FoR3 would become an important part of the story. I told him that we presented our views directly to the BBC. That is the FoR3 strategy (for better or worse ). We support the BBC and I don't want FoR3 associated with any agenda-led attacks.

        Please, will you support my contribution. This is, at base, a wretched story. Give me a Green Up Arrow. Or ...
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • underthecountertenor
          Full Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 1584

          #5
          Spot on ffss, and I've added my greenery.

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          • DracoM
            Host
            • Mar 2007
            • 12969

            #6
            Not sure what a 'green up arrow' is, so............

            Try this:

            Any good?

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            • salymap
              Late member
              • Nov 2010
              • 5969

              #7
              Originally posted by DracoM View Post
              Not sure what a 'green up arrow' is, so............

              Try this:

              Any good?
              Click on FF's RED link and the green arrow will appear.

              I've voted, for what it's worth...

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              • vinteuil
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12815

                #8
                ... I've added me green arrer

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                • Karafan
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 786

                  #9
                  Originally posted by salymap View Post
                  Click on FF's RED link and the green arrow will appear.

                  I've voted, for what it's worth...
                  I have done likewise, FF.... well said.

                  K.
                  "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30283

                    #10
                    Originally posted by salymap View Post
                    Click on FF's RED link


                    I'll add another message clarifying a thing or two later. Meanwhile, an amble through clicking on the green arrows that make reasonable points would be good too. We have to counter the 'What do we need it for anyway? Load of pretentious snobs!' of whom a few have crept out of the woodwork. I think 'we' are winning that one already without any orchestrated help.

                    As I've said to supporters, it would be hypocritical to say that articles like this don't 'help' the cause by drawing attention to the issues. But I don't think that throwing in our lot with the Daily Mail will be helpful.
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #11
                      I see you have received one down arrow. It wasn't me, honest. 31 ups and counting.

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                      • mercia
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8920

                        #12
                        Radio 3 has frequently been called Radio 2.5 on this forum

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mercia View Post
                          Radio 3 has frequently been called Radio 2.5 on this forum
                          This forum is but hosted by FoR3. Views expressed here must not be taken as representative of that organisation. FoR3 has not described Radio 3 as Radio 2.5.

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                          • mercia
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 8920

                            #14
                            the article seems to express many of the views held hereabouts, I'm surprised it isn't being welcomed

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                            • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 9173

                              #15
                              duly upped
                              According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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