50 Greatest Pianists

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  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    #31
    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
    Oh, and it's a free concert.

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    • Alison
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 6455

      #32
      Think I'd bung in Shura Cherkassky for sure.

      Pleased to see Steven Osborne being suggested.

      I should love to have been at Benjamin Grosvenor's recent QEH recital.

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      • Suffolkcoastal
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3290

        #33
        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        Planning to hear him at City University's Performance Space next Tuesday:

        Karl Amadeus Hartmann - Sonata, "27 April 1945" (1945)
        Elliott Carter - Piano Sonata (1945-46, revised 1982)
        Pierre Boulez - Piano Sonata No. 2 (1947-48)
        Serge Prokofiev - Piano Sonata No. 9 in C, op. 103 (1947)
        I would have liked to have attended this, I wish recitals like this would happen in my area. I have the Hartmann and must dig it out, the Carter is among my favourite Carter works, it seems years since that was last broadcast on R3.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          #34
          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          Oh, and it's a free concert.
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • gradus
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 5606

            #35
            Thanks ff for that footage of Cziffra. Blimey.

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            • Pianorak
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3127

              #36
              Boris Berezovsky plays Medtner - (you might have to register and log in)

              So much for "Medtner is Rachmaninov without the tunes"

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              • vinteuil
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12797

                #37
                for me, he really missed out on ( I mean: I would certainly want in my top fifty... ) -

                Marcelle Meyer
                Yves Nat
                Dino Ciani
                Edwin Fischer
                Christian Zacharias
                Malcolm Bilson
                Jan Vermeulen
                Andreas Staier
                Robert Levin
                Aldo Ciccolini
                Samson François
                Georges Cziffra
                Ronald Brautigam

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                • PhilipMC

                  #38
                  Although Peter Donohoe has stated clearly that it is not an exhaustive list of his "great" pianists, there are nevertheless some remarkable omissions of living pianists, of which the most glaring is Mitsuko Uchida, surely one of the all-time greatest pianists.

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30254

                    #39
                    'Morning, PhilipMC - and welcome!

                    I'm not sure which is more glaring: the omission of a giant of the past (Cherkassky, Cziffra) or of the present time like Uchida. I can count 10 in the list of 50 that I haven't heard of (unsurprising, actually), but among the current generations, Kissin but not Sokolov? Anne Queffélec but not Uchida? There clearly is a very personal aspect to the choices - which, in fairness, I think was made clear.
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • amateur51

                      #40
                      It's human nature of course but isn't it interesting that the discussion here tends to focus on who has been left out, rather than on who has been included ... and why

                      Re Mitsuko Uchida, maybe Peter Donohoe just prefers Anne Queffélec's performances of Dutilleux to hers

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30254

                        #41
                        Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                        Re Mitsuko Uchida, maybe Peter Donohoe just prefers Anne Queffélec's performances of Dutilleux to hers
                        Well, I thought when I was writing that that there might also be the element of repertoire associated with the various performers.
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #42
                          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                          It's human nature of course but isn't it interesting that the discussion here tends to focus on who has been left out, rather than on who has been included ... and why
                          - 'twere ever thus! I suspect that if I ever compiled a list of "50 favourite Dustbinmen", there'd be a mass of responses from fellow Forumistas demanding why I'd missed out X, y and z: and, as soon as I saw their names, I'd also think what an idiot I'd been to miss them out!

                          I can imagine Mr Donohoe sat at his keyboard smiting his brow and wailing "Uchida! ... Schnabel!! ... Fischer!!! ... How could I have been such an ....
                          Last edited by ferneyhoughgeliebte; 06-11-12, 13:24.
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                          • Richard Tarleton

                            #43
                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            for me, he really missed out on ( I mean: I would certainly want in my top fifty... ) -

                            Edwin Fischer
                            One of the three pianists Brendel most admired, and whose masterclasses he attended, the others being Cortot and Kempff. Close behind came Schnabel, another omission from PD's list.

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                            • salymap
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 5969

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                              One of the three pianists Brendel most admired, and whose masterclasses he attended, the others being Cortot and Kempff. Close behind came Schnabel, another omission from PD's list.
                              I mentioned Schabel, together with one or two others. But having sat through rehearsal and concert of Schabel's 1st symphony, I can't disassociate him from that. I preferred his piano playing

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                              • ardcarp
                                Late member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11102

                                #45
                                Maybe when the Beeb has a Mandolin Season...why not an Andean Nose Flute Season?....the choice of 50 greatest will not be so controversial.

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