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  • Dave2002
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 18021

    #61
    Just tried Harnoncourt on Teldec (circa 1992) via Napster. Very solid bass line, and slows up at the end of the first movement.

    How many more should we try? Has anyone tried Philip Pickett - he with the odd ideas about symbolism etc.? I have the CDs - they're good, though I'm not convinced that they benefit from his extra musical ideas. http://www.recorderhomepage.net/brandenburgs.html

    I'm sure I've got a few more lying around on CDs - probably Giardino Armonico (usually excellent).

    If anyone is interested only in the 6th there are several versions - none particularly well known - on emusic, and for only three tracks that might only cost £1.26 for each version of the 6th downloaded, though check with streaming sites if you're a subscriber as some reappear on those sites.

    Spotify has quite a few, including Suzuki http://open.spotify.com/track/7MrDXofyuIhSz958gOyYev, which starts off slower. I think this may be 1 to a part, and it's quite easy to follow the individual lines.

    It also has Giardino Armonico - http://open.spotify.com/track/7qReOAvZ8Fv0HYYJxnRsc5 which sounds as though it has a lute or similar along with the harpsichord, and is faster.

    After Suzuki, Richard Egarr on HM sounds very vigorous! http://open.spotify.com/track/4klKdruNS0WuGoMcC0ILmU

    Menuhin with the Bath Festival orchestra sounds very different - very slow - http://open.spotify.com/track/7ylwjuCyIlEt6jgXdvMzOP

    Munchinger is also slow - http://open.spotify.com/track/7jFKw7IZHNFKw51xaMElQp but the overall sound is quite pleasant!

    Pitches vary considerably across the various recordings.

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    • Dave2002
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 18021

      #62
      Carlos seems hard to track down, and very expensive.

      The 6th doesn't simply sound like an organ - which is the rendition in Number 3. You can catch snippets of 6 here http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/...ndy+Carlos.htm

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #63
        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        I think Davis's Messiah has the perfect balance, making great music great,
        All respect to Sir Col, but I rather think Handel did this.

        and not in any way trying to prove a point.
        Don'tcher believe it!
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        • heliocentric

          #64
          "Making great music great." It's come to this has it?

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          • Ariosto

            #65
            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
            Now if I said that, but in reverse, there would be venomous shouts from many HIPPsters. I think Davis's Messiah has the perfect balance, making great music great, and not in any way trying to prove a point.
            They do seem to have it in for you Eine Alpensinfonie - just because you like music played in tune, with a nice sound, and performed in a musical way.

            You have to accept though that Radio 3 and particularly this forum has a large majority of members who are HIPP extremists, and will shoot you down from the HIP!!!!! Either that, or the non HIPPsters here are all hiding behind the sofas, too terrified to bring their heads over the parapet!

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            • Ariosto

              #66
              Originally posted by heliocentric View Post
              "Making great music great." It's come to this has it?
              Well that's more than many of the HIP performers manage ...

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              • Dave2002
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 18021

                #67
                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                Under a fiver/disc (£27.66) at Amazon.es Dave2002
                Thanks, though with the postage added on the saving might not be so great compared with the UK amazon. I did have several from *.es before, but they were at a very good price, and the postage was small in comparison to the saving.

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                • MickyD
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 4774

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                  Carlos seems hard to track down, and very expensive.
                  Wow, I just saw the incredible price being asked for the Carlos set - I only bought it two or three years ago, I suppose it has been deleted...but am amazed it is still not in the catalogue.

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                  • heliocentric

                    #69
                    Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                    Wow, I just saw the incredible price being asked for the Carlos set - I only bought it two or three years ago, I suppose it has been deleted...but am amazed it is still not in the catalogue.
                    I have a 4 CD box which contains the two "Switched-On Bach" compilations, the "Well-Tempered Synthesizer" and an extra CD with the Brandenburg concertos that don't appear on the first two discs, plus various extras like MIDI files of several of the pieces and a software synthesizer to play them with. Actually where the Carlos approach really comes into its own IMO is in the four Scarlatti sonatas. A few dozen more of those would have been nice. But this boxed set seems also to be deleted and on offer at stupid prices, which is a great shame.

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                      I'm wondering if I need to bite the bullet and get this - http://www.amazon.co.uk/J-S-Bach-Con...8&sr=8-1-fkmr0 by Café Zimmerman. Goes against the grain a bit - over £6 per CD, but the performances I've heard sounded excellent. Maybe I should wait until Christmas.
                      I forget what I paid, but it was a lot less than the current amazon.co.uk prices. Mind you, even at what they are asking for them now they are around half the price of the individual discs. The set is a must, surely?

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                      • heliocentric

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                        The set is a must, surely?
                        Yes, it certainly makes great music great.

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                        • MickyD
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 4774

                          #72
                          Originally posted by heliocentric View Post
                          I have a 4 CD box which contains the two "Switched-On Bach" compilations, the "Well-Tempered Synthesizer" and an extra CD with the Brandenburg concertos that don't appear on the first two discs, plus various extras like MIDI files of several of the pieces and a software synthesizer to play them with. Actually where the Carlos approach really comes into its own IMO is in the four Scarlatti sonatas. A few dozen more of those would have been nice. But this boxed set seems also to be deleted and on offer at stupid prices, which is a great shame.
                          This is the very box I got hold of some years ago. I agree, the Scarlatti works wonderfully well. And I also love the "Domine Ad Adjuvandum" from the 1610 Vespers.

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20570

                            #73
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            All respect to Sir Col, but I rather think Handel did this.
                            Handel? He kept on changing his mind.
                            And I stick to my original claim. Handel made great music, but Sir Colin made it sound great.

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                            • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 9173

                              #74
                              when i can get my computer sound system working again i shall revisit the Akademie fur Alte Musik Berlin as well ...
                              According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                              • heliocentric

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                                Handel made great music, but Sir Colin made it sound great.
                                This is getting sillier all the time. Handel: "I offer my humble Apologies to the honoured Ladies and Gentlemen who must needs endure Musick which through the primitive and uncouth state of our Instruments and the paucity of Musitians in our Orchestra shall sound like abject Rubbish for the next two centuries, until a Maestro shall come up from Weybridge in fair Surrey and cause it at long last to resonate with its deserv'd Greatness."

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