Yet another gaffe on Breakfast - can R3 get any worse???

[Paul Sherratt]

>>It's as though they assume the listening public is a collection of morons

Taking a lead from their tv namesake colleagues ?
Because that gruesome crew mostly certainly do make such an assumption.

[french frank]

Taking a lead from their tv namesake colleagues ?
Because that gruesome crew mostly certainly do make such an assumption.

BBC Three does attract the 16-34 year-olds reasonably successfully. My suggestion was that BBC Three should include a bit of da hi-art and classical culcha for the edification of da yoof. RW's alternative seems to be to use the style of da yoof on R3 to attract dem over here.

[Paul Sherratt]

FF,

Isn't 'yoof' in Radio 3 terms an early fifties something ?

[Pianorak]

Tom Crowe's obit in today's Telegraph an antidote?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/culture-obituaries/tv-radio-obituaries/8237576/Tom-Crowe.html

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

All this dumbing down to attempt to find an audience reminds me of a local happy-clappy church, where the adults jump around and wave their arms in the air to encourage young people to participate. It's completely counterproductive, as the young people don't want to be patronised by an embarrassing collection of middle-aged nutters.

[Paul Sherratt]

Neat photo for Mr Crowe's obit, Pianorak...

Thanks, by the way.

[kernelbogey]

I would want to be a little defensive of presenters personally (them personally, not me personally), on the whole, because producing a programme is a team job and where you have less knowledgeable, less experienced presenters, the producer ought always to be alert [....] I think SMP is probably doing too much atm, switching from Breakfast into what sounds so ghastly (the 3-hour nightly Play Mozart for Me , nine evenings out of ten) I can't even bear to listen to see how she makes out. I just wish her the very, very best of luck with it . Her personally, I mean. The description of the programme is pure Forces Favourites from the 1940s.

In defence of SMP, who I consider one of the best presenters, the gaffe which prompted this thread probably results from a script, perhaps but not necessarily written by her, which, once in type, becomes hard to question. (I assume presenters are now reading scripts from a screen.) This does not excuse poor checking, of course, but it is easy to assume that what has been written is correct.

Wonder how the title 'Play Mozart for me' was agreed - a most unfortunate pun on the title of the Clint Eastwood film 'Play Misty for me' in which he plays a radio disc-jockey who is stalked by a listener . Didn't listen to it but the trailer by SM-P sounded ghastly. 'Dedications'?!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Call me odd, but I've never understood this "dedication" thing. To dedicate a work of art, music or literature to someone (which has involved the creator in much toil) seems fair enough. But to ask a radio DJ (who often cares more about the sound of his/her own voice than either the music or you) seems utterly pointless.

[kernelbogey]

Call me odd, but I've never understood this "dedication" thing.

I think it's fundamentally based on the attraction of hearing one's name and views read out on air. I think this is what is behind most of the emails and text messages read out on Breakfast. I admit that I've succumbed a few times to this vanity (in respect of Breakfast) and that's how I recognise it .

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

kernelbogey

[Paul Sherratt]

kernelbogey,
I don't see your emailing as a vanity issue - it's more like responding to the broadcasters' cries for help
Now why don't the collected membership all email in serving suggestions for stuff they never play ?
There's power in the union, as Full Member Simon will confirm!

[Simon]

There's power in the union, as Full Member Simon will confirm!

Very true, brother. UWS, DWF! :)

[kernelbogey]

kernelbogey,
I don't see your emailing as a vanity issue - it's more like responding to the broadcasters' cries for help
Now why don't the collected membership all email in serving suggestions for stuff they never play ?
There's power in the union, as Full Member Simon will confirm!

I thought of emailing Spiel Wolfie fuer Mich with a request for a bit of the Requiem - in memory of the demise of taste.

[Angle]

I am saddened by the news of Tom Crowe who enlivened many a broadcast in the good old days, especially as I wondered while I was reading the comments about the latest R3 disaster just what he would have made of it all. He was a master of the art of making the most of a gaffe and won many friends.

I just wish I could find in my collection of tape cassettes just one recording of his voice, but sadly he is not there.

Perhaps the answer to all our woes is to bring Patricia Hughes out of retirement.

Don
Liverpool

[Paul Sherratt]

FM Simon,
True indeed. This really is for your eyes only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB3RBxnn98g