Tárrega watch

[Nick Armstrong]

a young guitarist of the moment whose name escapes me

http://www.thibautgarcia-guitarist.com/en/

[Richard Tarleton]

Thanks Cali. Good to see/hear him playing a guitar of traditional build, too, albeit with rather squeaky strings......

[french frank]

My work is done.

¡Felicitaciones! ¡Enhorabuena!

[Inverted ! looks more like a lower case i to me ]

[Richard Tarleton]

¡Felicitaciones! ¡Enhorabuena!

[Inverted ! looks more like a lower case i to me ]

¡Muchísimas gracias!

(it does rather )

[Historian]

The problem is that no one never knows exactly how ignorant they are and about what...

I too have been guilty of mispronouncing the composer in question. Thank you for putting me right, RT. Always glad to have learned something.

[ardcarp]

Coming to this thread rather late, I wonder if he wrote anything for the tárogató.

[french frank]

Coming to this thread rather late, I wonder if he wrote anything for the tárogató.

Always something to learn in this place

[Richard Tarleton]

Coming to this thread rather late, I wonder if he wrote anything for the tárogató.

Obviously you can have more than one stress in a Romanian word, unlike in Spanish - tho RC is happy to try

Here's a picture of the great man

[vinteuil]

Always something to learn in this place

... and I, for one, didn't know that one might easily encounter the tárogató in Wagner - from wiki :

"A modern tárogató may occasionally be heard in Act 3 of Tristan und Isolde by Richard Wagner where it has become traditional in some opera houses (e.g. the Royal Opera House, London) to use it instead of the off-stage cor anglais for the last passage (bars 999-1149) of the Shepherd's air, but Wagner did not specify this, merely suggesting in the score "a specially built simple natural instrument"."

[ardcarp]

In case anyone's interested the tárogató was originally a double-reed instrument (possible a bit like a shawm?) originating in the Middle East, and found also in Turkey. It was probably meant for outdoor use, maybe in battle (rallying the troops, etc). The modern version is totally different, having been re-invented in Romania and/or Hungary. It has a single reed and looks at first sight like a clarinet, except that it has a conical bore. Its tone is more exotic than the clarinet, hence its use in Tristan. Sorry to be a....bore!

Edit: Probably more than you want to know here.....

http://toby-marshall.com/music-stuff/a-tarogato-odyssey-finding-an-original-schunda-instrument/

....but nice pics if you scroll down.

[Richard Tarleton]

Sarah Walker attempted a sort of compromise this morning, giving all 3 syllables more or less equal emphasis (she clearly can't quite accept it's Tárrega). She was playing that hideous transcription of Recuerdos by Ruggiero Ricci, surely one of the most misbegotten transfers ever attempted.

[oddoneout]

Sarah Walker attempted a sort of compromise this morning, giving all 3 syllables more or less equal emphasis (she clearly can't quite accept it's Tárrega). She was playing that hideous transcription of Recuerdos by Ruggiero Ricci, surely one of the most misbegotten transfers ever attempted.

She seemed to have a slightly different version each time it came up - maybe part of the problem is that when one is concentrating on not mis-pronouncing(especially if the wrong version is what one's always used) it can be hard not to compromise the correct version? Bit like that exercise of not thinking about 'white bear' for 5 minutes....
And yes that transcription is awful - ruins a decent bit of music and justifies the view of violins as nasty screechy things.

[Richard Tarleton]

Just caught the end of today's challenge on EC - "Memories of the Alhambra" - how did RC do with Tárrega? I may have to check later if nobody caught it.

[Richard Tarleton]

He pronounced it TarrEga.

Where do we go from here?

[vinteuil]

He pronounced it TarrEga.


Where do we go from here?

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... ah, but the 'he' here was Robt: Cowan. What else did you expect from the mangler-in-chief??