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  • AuntDaisy
    Host
    • Jun 2018
    • 1635

    Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
    Danielle's developing her own style, easing into a more relaxed presentation, I thought.
    Possibly, but it did jar. I'm thoroughly enjoying the choice of music.

    Will Ethel Smyth or Fanny Mendelssohn get a chapess or gal at some point?

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    • AuntDaisy
      Host
      • Jun 2018
      • 1635

      Here's what we missed today - available from more enlightened broadcasters (who don't repeat repeats of drivel) via EBU Notturno, e.g. Swedish radio https://sverigesradio.se/avsnitt/2222332 starting 4 hours in.

      01:01 Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart; Requiem (K.626) in D minor (compl. Sussmayr); Elizabeth Poole (soprano), Lynette Alcantara (mezzo soprano), Andrew Murgatroyd (tenor), Edward Price (bass), BBC Concert Orchestra, Stephen Cleobury (conductor)
      01:47 Francis Poulenc; Sonata for Two Pianos (1953); Roland Pontinen (piano), Love Derwinger (piano)
      02:10 Arcangelo Corelli; Sonata a quattro in G minor; La Stagione Frankfurt, Michael Schneider (director)
      02:16 Gabriel Faure; Pavane for orchestra Op 50; BBC National Orchestra of Wales, Grant Llewellyn (conductor)
      02:24 Alessandro Stradella; Quando mai vi Stancherete; Emma Kirkby (soprano), Alan Wilson (harpsichord)
      02:32 Johan Svendsen; Violin Romance in G major, Op 26; Julia Fischer (violin), Bergen Philharmonic Orchestra, Christopher Warren-Green (conductor)
      02:40 Anonymous; Salterello; Ensemble Micrologus
      02:46 Gabriel Faure; Impromptu No.2 in F minor (Op.31) (1883); Stefan Lindgren (piano)
      02:51 Antonio Vivaldi; Violin Concerto in B flat major, RV 383a, Op.4'1; Fabio Biondi (violin), Europa Galante, Fabio Biondi (director)
      Info from https://www.ebu.ch/files/live/sites/...ber%202023.pdf

      I enjoyed the Mozart Requiem, here are more details from a 2007 TTN broadcast.
      03:33AM
      Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus (1756-1791) compl. Sussmayr
      Requiem (K.626) in D minor (Requiem aeternam; Kyrie eleison; Dies irae; Tuba mirum; Rex tremendae; Recordare; Confutatis; Lacrimosa; Domine Jesu; Hostias; Sanctus; Benedictus; Agnus Dei) [NB Soloists are members of BBC Singers]
      Elizabeth Poole (soprano), Lynette Alcantara (mezzo soprano), Andrew Murgatroyd (tenor), Edward Price (bass), BBC Singers, BBC Concert Orchestra, Stephen Cleobury (conductor) [recorded on 12th March 2003 at the Fairfields Hall, Croydon]
      GBBBC
      Compare this to February's TTN broadcast (this looks to be a repeat of it).
      02:31 AM
      Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756-1791)
      Requiem (K.626) in D minor (compl. Sussmayr)
      Elizabeth Poole (soprano), Lynette Alcantara (mezzo-soprano), Andrew Murgatroyd (tenor), Edward Price (bass), BBC Concert Orchestra, Stephen Cleobury (conductor)​

      What do we want? 6 hours of TTN and more details!

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      • smittims
        Full Member
        • Aug 2022
        • 4141

        Absolutely!

        I think Danielle sounds as if she's been listening to the more constructive criticisms ; I think she's OK now.

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        • smittims
          Full Member
          • Aug 2022
          • 4141

          And as if to illustrate that, I wonder if Danielle is the first person to say 'git' on Radio 3 . Speaking of a character in an opera' she said 'Janos is a bit of a git'. , at about 4.45 BST today.

          According to the OED it simply means 'offspring' but can be used contemptuously, as in 'brat'. But in common parlance, at least in England, it often means 'misbegotten' i.e. a bastard, and is synonymous with 'get', which I can recall being regarded as 'bad language' by some people in the 1970s.

          I don't know the opera; Danielle may be right, and when you have only a few seconds to introduce the next item in TTN, short words may be best

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            Originally posted by smittims View Post
            And as if to illustrate that, I wonder if Danielle is the first person to say 'git' on Radio 3 . Speaking of a character in an opera' she said 'Janos is a bit of a git'. , at about 4.45 BST today.

            According to the OED it simply means 'offspring' but can be used contemptuously, as in 'brat'. But in common parlance, at least in England, it often means 'misbegotten' i.e. a bastard, and is synonymous with 'get', which I can recall being regarded as 'bad language' by some people in the 1970s.

            I don't know the opera; Danielle may be right, and when you have only a few seconds to introduce the next item in TTN, short words may be best

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            • DracoM
              Host
              • Mar 2007
              • 12969

              Always amazed that no-one seems to listen to 'Night Tracks'?

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              • smittims
                Full Member
                • Aug 2022
                • 4141

                I'm afraid I don't even know what 'Night tracks' is. Shockin' ignorance, as Yasha says in The Cherry Orchard.

                Do you agree with Danielle about Janos, Bryn? And thanks for the link.

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                • DracoM
                  Host
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 12969

                  11 p.m. - 12.30 a.m. Mon-Frid.

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                    Always amazed that no-one seems to listen to 'Night Tracks'?
                    The bittiness of it puts me off, as with so many other Radio 3 programmes, these days. Freeness is another. Very much the sort of music I'm interested in, but not in bite-size snippets.

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                    • kernelbogey
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 5745

                      Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                      Always amazed that no-one seems to listen to 'Night Tracks'?
                      There's a whole thread on it: this is the first post:

                      Originally posted by CallMePaul View Post
                      I have listened to the first two editions of this ...

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                      • AuntDaisy
                        Host
                        • Jun 2018
                        • 1635

                        Originally posted by smittims View Post
                        And as if to illustrate that, I wonder if Danielle is the first person to say 'git' on Radio 3 . Speaking of a character in an opera' she said 'Janos is a bit of a git'. , at about 4.45 BST today.
                        According to the OED it simply means 'offspring' but can be used contemptuously, as in 'brat'. But in common parlance, at least in England, it often means 'misbegotten' i.e. a bastard, and is synonymous with 'get', which I can recall being regarded as 'bad language' by some people in the 1970s.
                        I don't know the opera; Danielle may be right, and when you have only a few seconds to introduce the next item in TTN, short words may be best
                        John Shea put it far more eloquently in a similar 21 seconds in February last year:
                        A moment of operatic optimism, next, before the inevitable tragedy that befalls the heroine of Moniuszko's Halca. She's interrupted her ex-lover, as he celebrates his engagement to another woman, and she's convinced he still has feelings for her. Now she waits to meet him by the river. Anna Lubanska is the singer.

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          Originally posted by smittims View Post
                          I'm afraid I don't even know what 'Night tracks' is. Shockin' ignorance, as Yasha says in The Cherry Orchard.

                          Do you agree with Danielle about Janos, Bryn? And thanks for the link.
                          I don't know the work well enough to comment on her assessment. I just wanted to offer context.

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                          • smittims
                            Full Member
                            • Aug 2022
                            • 4141

                            Many thanks, and with respect to John Shea, I think I prefer Danielle's summary! Even better would be a comment about the music rather than the 'story'.

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30280

                              Originally posted by smittims View Post
                              Many thanks, and with respect to John Shea, I think I prefer Danielle's summary! Even better would be a comment about the music rather than the 'story'.
                              The story is an essential part of most operas. I saw Halka in Wrocław​ some years ago. I arranged a short break there while Halka was being performed, it being considered Poland's 'National opera'. I get a bit muddled over these Slavic operas where the wretched heroine ends up throwing herself into the river. Cf Katya Kabanova. I can't remember whether Janusz(?) is a git or not - just a well-born young man who casts off his peasant girlfriend for a well-born wife. I can't remember why Katya threw herself into the river. Or was it Jenufa?

                              [Have told the story here before of how I was wondering if I could get a reasonable seat, and tentatively suggested to the lady in the ticket office the equivalent of about £20. She said that for that amount I could have the whole opera house.]
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • smittims
                                Full Member
                                • Aug 2022
                                • 4141

                                Thanks, ff; it was valuable to hear from someone who has actually seen this opera staged. In the North of England, a well-born young man who casts off his peasant girlfriend for a wealthy wife would be called a 'scum-bag', best said with a Liverpool accent, which I wouldn't expect Danielle to attempt.

                                As I'm sure you know, but for the benefit of anyone new to it, Katya throws herself into the river because, after the joys of a fling in the dark, she cannot bear to return to life with her uncaring wimp of a husband and his atrocious mother. But to go on to consider Jenufa and others takes us to the murky question of why so many operas involve a beautiful young woman killing herself or being killed to climactic music. Not, I think, a subject for 0731 on a wet thursday morning

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