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  • kernelbogey
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 5748

    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
    It sounded to me as if some of the variations were being stretched out by needless irritating repetitions, though I could have been mistaken.
    Tbh, I haven't heard all of it. I thought the repeats were those in the original score - though I may be mistaken. To me it was a fresh take on the immaculate original, bringing out the voices in interesting ways.

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    • smittims
      Full Member
      • Aug 2022
      • 4161

      I believe the whole work consists of repeatable sections, which is why some recordings (George Malcolm, for example, whose Oiseau-Lyre set I picked up today ) took twice as long as those without any repeats (Glenn Gould, I think , omitted all repeats).

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37691

        Originally posted by smittims View Post
        I believe the whole work consists of repeatable sections, which is why some recordings (George Malcolm, for example, whose Oiseau-Lyre set I picked up today ) took twice as long as those without any repeats (Glenn Gould, I think , omitted all repeats).
        Ah, that could explain it!

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        • Pulcinella
          Host
          • Feb 2014
          • 10949

          Originally posted by smittims View Post
          I believe the whole work consists of repeatable sections, which is why some recordings (George Malcolm, for example, whose Oiseau-Lyre set I picked up today ) took twice as long as those without any repeats (Glenn Gould, I think , omitted all repeats).
          For the 1981 version, Gould sought to unify the variations differently, through his choices of tempi: he played more of the repeats, and wanted to express proportional rhythmic relations between the variations.

          Taken from

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          • smittims
            Full Member
            • Aug 2022
            • 4161

            Thanks. I was thinking of his vintage 1955 recording. Others have played it without any repeats, Zola Mae Shaulis, I think, on her debut album, got through it in 47 minutes.

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26538

              A new voice for TTN… Ms Jalowiecka seems very pleased at the prospect:


              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37691

                Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                A new voice for TTN… Ms Jalowiecka seems very pleased at the prospect:


                Voted in by Pole?

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                • kernelbogey
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 5748

                  A new voice for TTN… Ms Jalowiecka seems very pleased at the prospect
                  So who is she replacing... Catriona? Or are they doing four-week shifts?
                  IMVHO she'll be excellent.

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                  • subcontrabass
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2780

                    Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                    So who is she replacing... Catriona? Or are they doing four-week shifts?
                    IMVHO she'll be excellent.
                    Seems to be alternating with Catriona Young for the next two weeks.

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                    • kernelbogey
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 5748

                      Aah thanks.... I heard a bit of the programme. She has beautiful diction. Perhaps for a whole programme, as opposed to news or continuity, she could bring a bit more warmth to her voice. The three regulars all have their own style, each warm in their own ways.

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                      • smittims
                        Full Member
                        • Aug 2022
                        • 4161

                        This is all very well, but does she know anything about classical music? I have yet to see this mentioned. I do think this ought to be a prime requirement, even in the 21st century when TV gardeners present the Proms.

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                        • kernelbogey
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 5748

                          Originally posted by smittims View Post
                          This is all very well, but does she know anything about classical music? I have yet to see this mentioned. I do think this ought to be a prime requirement, even in the 21st century when TV gardeners present the Proms.
                          She's also a professional musician - either a flautist or recorder player (I can't remember which).

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30301

                            Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                            She's also a professional musician - either a flautist or recorder player (I can't remember which).
                            "... graduated with a first class degree in recorder performance from the Royal College of Music in London. She continued her studies at the Sydney Conservatorium of Music where she had a number of works written for her by the Australian composer, Ian Shanahan. She formed a recorder quartet, i Flautisti, which has performed in a number of venues. "

                            The steps to the Mid-Somerset platform are a well trodden path to success as the Festival never fails to notice and encourage excellence in music. This is evidenced by how many young award winners go on to enjoy impressive long term careers. If you’re wondering how former Bath Young Musician winners are faring today, Mid-Somerset


                            No reflection at all on DJ, though I've always thought it more necessary for presenters to have a wide knowledge of the repertoire rather than being a performer: the two don't always go together. RW liked the idea of having performers as presenters 'like sport has former players' but the analogy doesn't work very well: Sue Barker talked knowledgeably about tennis, Gary Lineker about football (and golf, though to some disapproval from golf enthusiasts).

                            But DJ copes well with the Shipping Forecast.
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              From https://midsomersetfestival.org/2022...-are-they-now/

                              Danielle Jalowiecka (winner 2003) graduated with a first class degree in recorder performance from the Royal College of Music in London. She continued her studies at the Sydney Conservatorium of Music where she had a number of works written for her by the Australian composer, Ian Shanahan. She formed a recorder quartet, i Flautisti, which has performed in a number of venues. She is now primarily a newsreader and presenter on Radios 3 and 4.

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                              • oddoneout
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 9204

                                Originally posted by smittims View Post
                                This is all very well, but does she know anything about classical music? I have yet to see this mentioned. I do think this ought to be a prime requirement, even in the 21st century when TV gardeners present the Proms.
                                Your question has been answered by kb and ff but in the context of TTN I wonder how important it is. Surely one of the positives about TTN is the lack of spoken word input, so as long as the basic what, by whom, performer(s) details are correct (and knowing how to check those doesn't have to require vast breadth of knowledge) that, together with competence in speaking and presenting, is all that is necessary.
                                The more verbiage that is required the more it becomes necessary to possess a level of knowledge, if only to avoid basic mistakes. Being a specialist (performer or otherwise) doesn't automatically confer the ability to avoid clangers, nor to be a good presenter.

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