"Inessential" Classics

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Oh yes: Schutz is a glorious composer - a miraculous combination of richness and austerity.
The last time I remember hearing anything on R3 by Fux (and I didn't want to mention him earlier in the scatological interlude!) was in 1976 - handily, the evening before a Music lesson on "Bach's Predecessors"! I so enjoy his Counterpoint book and I'd like to hear more of the Music that resulted from his studies with Palestrina.

Iain Hamilton, anyone? Aurora was one of the first pieces by a living composer that I "got".

[barber olly]

Schutz as well as Scheidt.

To continue with the secrets of Sch... There's Schmitt and Schmidt.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I don't think it's the appropriate time to mention messrs Schmi(d/t)t.

[John Skelton]

Oh yes: Schutz is a glorious composer - a miraculous combination of richness and austerity.
The last time I remember hearing anything on R3 by Fux (and I didn't want to mention him earlier in the scatological interlude!) was in 1976 - handily, the evening before a Music lesson on "Bach's Predecessors"! I so enjoy his Counterpoint book and I'd like to hear more of the Music that resulted from his studies with Palestrina.

Iain Hamilton, anyone? Aurora was one of the first pieces by a living composer that I "got".

Schütz is indeed a wonderful composer. But Fux's "studies with Palestrina"? - Fux was born in 1660! This http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//CARUS83308.htm is very good.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Schütz is indeed a wonderful composer. But Fux's "studies with Palestrina"? - Fux was born in 1660!

You see what happens when R3 doesn't broadcast any of his Music! Ahem: read "His studies of Palestrina".

Thanks for the link, John; I'm a fan of the Freibergers, so shall investigate this.

[Nick Armstrong]

Talking of Scheidt.... brings one to Tchaikovsky

God almighty, isn't 'Francesca da Rimini' an interminable load of old twaddle?! Repetitive banal storm music and sentimental schmaltz by turns, seemingly without end. I thought the same when enduring it as the last piece in a Prom this year (should have left that concert after the stunning 'Petrushka' - it was Salonen/Philharmonia).

Where's my 'Annoying Pieces' thread...??

Particularly poor morning on R3 today I thought. Rob wittering on about being in the bath and that horrendous Trelawney trailer starting "A catalogue of birds" ... spoken with the patronising singsong slowness of a primary school teacher...

[amateur51]

He might still be writing had he not died so relatively young in 2000.

Erm, I'll get back to you on that one, Suffolkcoastal

[MrGongGong]

Of course for those of us keen on Japanese traditional music
the Honkyoku repertoire of Shakuhachi music was created by members of the Fuke Zen sect

wonderful stuff though

[Serial_Apologist]

I don't think it's the appropriate time to mention messrs Schmi(d/t)t.

Oh very good, ferney! I bet that one bombed in the pub!

[Vile Consort]

Shakuhachi music

Ah ... proper World Music.

[Bryn]

Of course for those of us keen on Japanese traditional music
the Honkyoku repertoire of Shakuhachi music was created by members of the Fuke Zen sect

wonderful stuff though

Are there recordings of this particular tradition that you would recommend, MrGG. I am somewhat familiar, by ear, with the work of Kohachiro Miyata, (both in traditional music and with AMM) but little beyond that.

[french frank]

As a potential alternative to "Essential Classics" I would like MBers to suggest the names of composers, from any century including this one, whose music is rarely broadcast or even performed and whose music they would like to hear broadcast - perhaps in the new successor programme to "Essential Classics" [...] I will start the ball rolling by suggesting three names from the last century: [...] Bernard van Dieren, for the sole reason that smittims on the previous boards used to go on about his Chinese Symphony (and I have not heard a note of his music).

And talking of smittims - I had a two-page letter from him this morning. It seems he's in good or reasonable health but finds that 'Life's too short for the internet'. I'm inclined to agree!

[Ferretfancy]

And talking of smittims - I had a two-page letter from him this morning. It seems he's in good or reasonable health but finds that 'Life's too short for the internet'. I'm inclined to agree!

Like you, FF, I have never heard a note of Van Dieren's music, and I'm not even sure if any has been recorded, My curiosity was aroused years ago when I read Constant Lambert's classic Music Ho! in which he praises Van Dieren several times, but I'm still waiting for performances.

[Ferretfancy]

My apologies, aeolium for misattributing your quote!

[salymap]

And talking of smittims - I had a two-page letter from him this morning. It seems he's in good or reasonable health but finds that 'Life's too short for the internet'. I'm inclined to agree!

Oh ff I am so glad to hear that. Please, when you reply give him my best wishes. He taught me a lot, made me very welcome [with HS] when I joined in 2007 and had a wonderful [if sometimes hidden] SOH.

I agree about the internet, being alone I would be lost without it though.