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  • Sir Velo
    Full Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 3259

    Originally posted by antongould View Post
    Fear not on Monday Skellers is back - he apologises for his many, many mistakes with boundless good grace ....
    One has to ask: if he makes that many mistakes, however gracious his apologies, is he really the right man to be presenting on Radio 3?

    "Depth" and "out of" are words that come to mind...

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    • cloughie
      Full Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 22182

      Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
      One has to ask: if he makes that many mistakes, however gracious his apologies, is he really the right man to be presenting on Radio 3?

      "Depth" and "out of" are words that come to mind...
      On R3 as it is now between 9 and 12 Mon to Fri - he’s ideal. I rarely listen but he’s ideal!

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      • LMcD
        Full Member
        • Sep 2017
        • 8643

        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
        On R3 as it is now between 9 and 12 Mon to Fri - he’s ideal. I rarely listen but he’s ideal!
        Couldn't agree more - I sometimes listen to the first half-hour or so while browsing various sites and dealing with email, and occasionally suggest 'follow-up' pieces - normally with tongue firmly in cheek. I think his aim is to come over as some sort of matey subversive, which is vastly preferable to being lectured.

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30456

          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
          On R3 as it is now between 9 and 12 Mon to Fri - he’s ideal. I rarely listen but he’s ideal!
          That reminds me of one of the early criticisms of (as it was in them days) Morning on 3: too many pieces of non classical music. To which the BBC reply was that it was only reflecting the breadth of music which Radio 3 now covered. To which the response was: 'Yes, that's the other complaint!' And eventually the general amount of non-classical, and opportunities to play it, were cut (dedicated slots for musicals/film music, light music et al dropped).

          No objection (here ) to people who are less musically informed, but production should still check that there are basic standards. As it is, one begins to lose confidence in production staff too …
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • antongould
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 8833

            Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
            One has to ask: if he makes that many mistakes, however gracious his apologies, is he really the right man to be presenting on Radio 3?

            "Depth" and "out of" are words that come to mind...
            IMVVHO the much hated format means that rather than having a fixed playlist we now have 1/2/3 pieces selected by the listeners plus a host of other suggestions and the presenter has to do their best to talk knowledgeably about them all. Hence Skellers slips up or owns up to a lack of knowledge on occasions ...... when he has prepared e.g. in his interviews of the Bostridges and Renders of the world I feel he performs very well and displays a considerable level of knowledge and understanding ..... but then I’m biased .......

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            • LMcD
              Full Member
              • Sep 2017
              • 8643

              Originally posted by antongould View Post
              IMVVHO the much hated format means that rather than having a fixed playlist we now have 1/2/3 pieces selected by the listeners plus a host of other suggestions and the presenter has to do their best to talk knowledgeably about them all. Hence Skellers slips up or owns up to a lack of knowledge on occasions ...... when he has prepared e.g. in his interviews of the Bostridges and Renders of the world I feel he performs very well and displays a considerable level of knowledge and understanding ..... but then I’m biased .......
              Biased, possibly, but not alone!

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26573

                Originally posted by antongould View Post
                Hence Skellers slips up or owns up to a lack of knowledge on occasions ...... when he has prepared e.g. in his interviews of the Bostridges and Renders of the world I feel he performs very well and displays a considerable level of knowledge and understanding ..... but then I’m biased .......
                I've caught a couple of his interviews (by accident), and quite agree... But I find the programme so annoying despite IS's best efforts that I avoid it like the plague - I'm sorry IS has been saddled with it...

                "Breakfast" is a much more satisfying programme when presented by someone decent i.e. Martin Handley
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30456

                  Originally posted by antongould View Post
                  we now have 1/2/3 pieces selected by the listeners plus a host of other suggestions
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • antongould
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 8833

                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    You love it really .......

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30456

                      Originally posted by antongould View Post
                      You love it really .......
                      [DELETED, wearily]. Over & out.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22182

                        Originally posted by antongould View Post
                        IMVVHO the much hated format means that rather than having a fixed playlist we now have 1/2/3 pieces selected.
                        That’s just how elementary (school) it’s turning out to be....

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                        • Anastasius
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 1860

                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          [DELETED, wearily]. Over & out.
                          I listen to ClassicFM in the morning. At least it has no presumptions.

                          (Actually, the above is a fib...I either listen to CDs or stream stuff. I start off with R3 with good intentions but as soon as I get exhorted to twit, email or txt to the puerile, pointless, pathetically poor playlist, I yell "STFU" to the radio and switch it off.)
                          Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            A real corker from yesterday's listing:

                            Gustav Mahler

                            Symphony No 2 in C Minor "Resurrection" (3rd mvt)
                            Composer: Gilbert Kaplan. Composer: Renate Stark-Voit. Orchestra: Minnesota Orchestra. Conductor: Osmo Vänskä.

                            Mahler: Symphony No. 2 in C Minor "Resurrection". BIS. 3.

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20573

                              Anybody but SK. She may knowledgeable, but the supercilious nastiness makes me long for anyone else. Even Anne Robinson would be less abrasive.

                              As for the playlist game (the one where they are now careful to be begin with finales these days, in order to avoid people like me asking for the following movement) it's well past its sell-by date.

                              Oh, and Suzy, if you must call it a "show", the word doesn't rhyme with "now" or "cow".

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                              • zola
                                Full Member
                                • May 2011
                                • 656

                                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                                A real corker from yesterday's listing:
                                In Radio Times for today ( under the CFM listings as it happens ) we are informed that Edvard Grieg lived from 1843 until 1997.

                                On topic : Switching on too soon again for COTW the last two days, I have discovered the usual predictable fare from Essential Classics; Mendelssohn Hebrides Overture and Prokofiev Classical Symphony. There may not be an official playlist but....

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