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  • cloughie
    Full Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 22114

    Originally posted by french frank View Post
    Well, it could have been eight symphonies, 23 string quartets, the single movement of a piano concerto, four viola sonatas and a 10' by 8' painting of the Egyptians Crossing the Red Sea … Plus a seven volume novel entitled Where Have The Years Gone? That sort of thing
    Ken Dodd’s lonely world!

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    • Serial_Apologist
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 37589

      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      And this, in turn, reminds me of the audience member coming out at the end of another Rossini opera and saying "Well, if that's a Semiramide, I'm glad we didn't get a whole one."
      Oh that reminds me of a workmate who one day told our office that he'd obtained an Afghan Hound. After a few moments' pause, one of the women asked, "Why not a whole one?"

      As you were...

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      • cmr_for3
        Full Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 286

        I have to say I'm a fan of Ian Skelly. Rather good in the slot. Iplayer Radio does make a difference to one's listening habits though. I have found myself picking out Afternoon Concerts of interest. Having no classical knowledge really to speak of I have been going by location and have rather enjoyed the Verbier/Swiss Concerts!

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30239

          Originally posted by cmr_for3 View Post
          I have to say I'm a fan of Ian Skelly. Rather good in the slot. Iplayer Radio does make a difference to one's listening habits though. I have found myself picking out Afternoon Concerts of interest. Having no classical knowledge really to speak of I have been going by location and have rather enjoyed the Verbier/Swiss Concerts!
          Loads of Skelly fans here, too. But not for the programme. The success of a Radio 3 programme shouldn't rest with the popularity of its presenter, style, tone &c. It should be with the sound musical basis - including, in a 3-hour programme, several full length works.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • antongould
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 8778

            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            Loads of Skelly fans here, too. But not for the programme. The success of a Radio 3 programme shouldn't rest with the popularity of its presenter, style, tone &c. It should be with the sound musical basis - including, in a 3-hour programme, several full length works.
            Nitpicking surely ...... He played the full length of Rhapsody in Blue last week .......

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37589

              Originally posted by antongould View Post
              Nitpicking surely ...... He played the full length of Rhapsody in Blue last week .......
              How kind of him...

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26523

                Originally posted by cmr_for3 View Post
                I have to say I'm a fan of Ian Skelly. Rather good in the slot. Iplayer Radio does make a difference to one's listening habits though. I have found myself picking out Afternoon Concerts of interest. Having no classical knowledge really to speak of I have been going by location and have rather enjoyed the Verbier/Swiss Concerts!
                Me too but the ghastly format keeps me away.

                Like you, iPlayer Radio is much used - the lunchtime concerts last month from Verbier and LSO St Luke's (Michael Collins) much listened to here in the mornings... and Tom Poster's Mendelssohn from Hay last week...

                I wonder if the ease of side-stepping dross is part of why they foist it on the airwaves - on the basis that if you don't like the twittering bleeding chunks, you can just find something else that's preferable.
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20570

                  Originally posted by antongould View Post
                  Nitpicking surely ...... He played the full length of Rhapsody in Blue last week .......
                  ... shorter than many symphony movements.

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                  • cloughie
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 22114

                    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                    Me too but the ghastly format keeps me away.

                    I wonder if the ease of side-stepping dross is part of why they foist it on the airwaves - on the basis that if you don't like the twittering bleeding chunks, you can just find something else that's preferable.
                    ...and you can't polish a tur...key!

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                    • hmvman
                      Full Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 1097

                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      ... shorter than many symphony movements.
                      I must admit I was surprised (and not a little niggled) last week when he played only the first movement of an early Haydn symphony the whole of which would only have been 20-25 minutes duration.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30239

                        Originally posted by antongould View Post
                        Nitpicking surely ...... He played the full length of Rhapsody in Blue last week .......
                        Yes - but played on the triangle?!

                        And by "full-length" I meant more than 20 minutes. Not just "the whole piece".
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • Sir Velo
                          Full Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 3225

                          Originally posted by antongould View Post
                          .. He played the full length of Rhapsody in Blue last week .......
                          Its first outing in all of um, er ...a day?

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                          • cmr_for3
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 286

                            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                            Me too but the ghastly format keeps me away.

                            Like you, iPlayer Radio is much used - the lunchtime concerts last month from Verbier and LSO St Luke's (Michael Collins) much listened to here in the mornings... and Tom Poster's Mendelssohn from Hay last week...

                            I wonder if the ease of side-stepping dross is part of why they foist it on the airwaves - on the basis that if you don't like the twittering bleeding chunks, you can just find something else that's preferable.
                            I think you could be right. I've been looking at old radio 3 listings from previous decades on GNOME and it does depress me to see the way in which the station has been "modernised" ie you had "Morning Concert" as opposed to a breakfast show, which is much like radio one...

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                            • LMcD
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 8403

                              Originally posted by hmvman View Post
                              I must admit I was surprised (and not a little niggled) last week when he played only the first movement of an early Haydn symphony the whole of which would only have been 20-25 minutes duration.
                              I suppose we should be grateful that he played the whole of the movement.....

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30239

                                Eighteen pieces in 180 minutes today, that's - um - 10 minutes(?) average, minus 2 or 3 minutes for the chat. Too exhausting, even though the individual works were better than usual (though the Defunct Infant isn't the most imaginative choice). Short of signing in to Andrew's Workaround (and I'd have to look for the link) I'm not sure how long any of the pieces were.

                                [That said, he played the whole of the Mzt Oboe 4tet K370 (apparently) - though that is under 20 mins long
                                Last edited by french frank; 04-06-18, 20:43.
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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