Essential Classics - The Continuing Debate

[teamsaint]

I ought to remember to include E&OE, however As you put it, the dross is apparently the price that has to be paid (for reasons known to the BBC) for the live concerts, and the Proms (which come out of R3's budget). With this year's lossless audio, you'd think BBC Worldwide could sell them - and reimburse R3.

Out of interest, is it cheaper to have it produced by a production company than in house ?

[french frank]

Out of interest, is it cheaper to have it produced by a production company than in house ?

Can't really give an authoritative reply, but I doubt the BBC could do it cheaper than what they pay an indie, for this kind of programme.

[cloughie]

Can't really give an authoritative reply, but I doubt the BBC could do it cheaper than what they pay an indie, for this kind of programme.

I don't know - do Amazon make more from Marketplace sellers than from selling products direct? It cuts the risk cost of buying in!

[oddoneout]

As I don't have quite the same level of antipathy towards the morning offerings as the commenters here have I've been prepared to listen as usual to see how things bed down.Initial reaction is that it isn't worse but it isn't better. Some things which irritated have gone but may have been replaced with others.
Classic FM is not for me an alternative as I can't stand the advert interruptions and jingles(although it has to be said R3 is getting quite close at times with its trailers now) and although I have the radio on when I'm around but don't always give it my full attention I don't regard it as background music. If I'm not actively listening it's because I don't want to listen to that item. In the same way, for the recitals, concerts etc later in the day/evening I will switch off, turn down or do something else for things I don't want to listen to. And I happen to like the progression through the day of the different types of programmes. But what I would not want is for there to be a 'creep' of the style of the morning programmes into the later ones, whether that be unsuitable presenters, listener 'participation' or whatever.
There are things about the current R3 which I find do not bear comparison with years ago or the Third Programme, but I'm grateful that it still exists at all, together with the various BBC orchestras etc. I work in a museum and face a somewhat similar situation with changes in approach to display and interpretation and the attracting of visitors(audience). There may be things I dislike or find regrettable, but they enable the place to stay open and thus available for those who do want something a bit more challenging.

[BBMmk2]

The Sunday morning offerings, I thought were trash, to say the least! What were they thinking about?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

The Sunday morning offerings, I thought were trash, to say the least! What were they thinking about?

Erm - Essential Classics isn't broadcast on Sundays, Bbm. Today's Sunday Morning was presented by Jonathan Swain - I only heard the final item (a rather oomph-lacking performance of the Divertimento from The Fairy's Kiss with the Russian NO under Jurowski) so cannot comment on the other "offerings".

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Oh! Looking at the playlist, I see that the programme started with stuff by Lloyd-Banker! "Trash to say the least" indeed - and no doubt casting a sour taste over the remainder of the programme for those who heard it. Still - as effective as prunes with All-Bran for that time on a Sunday Morning.

[french frank]

Oh! Looking at the playlist, I see that the programme started with stuff by Lloyd-Banker! "Trash to say the least" indeed - and no doubt casting a sour taste over the remainder of the programme for those who heard it. Still - as effective as prunes with All-Bran for that time on a Sunday Morning.

Apart from the opening NumBah - Motschmann, Telemann, R Strauss, Rebecca Clarke, Shosta, Galuppi, Stravinsky. … ?

Make the most of it - if they're shaking the programme up, will it be better or worse?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Apart from the opening NumBah - Motschmann, Telemann, R Strauss, Rebecca Clarke, Shosta, Galuppi, Stravinsky. … ?

Yes - I noticed that the programme picked up thereafter (the only possible direction, of course) and did wonder if the performances were what led to Bbm's comment.

Make the most of it - if they're shaking the programme up, will it be better or worse?

Ladbroke's are refusing to take my bet!

[Richard Tarleton]

Yes - I noticed that the programme picked up thereafter (the only possible direction, of course)

There was a brief outbreak of marimbas, about which the less said the better.

[Nick Armstrong]

There was a brief outbreak of marimbas, about which the less said the better.

There's a very effective cortisone ointment for that, according to my aunt...

[Bryn]

There was a brief outbreak of marimbas, about which the less said the better.

Thanks for the tip-off. I will tarry no longer, and listen to the Sary.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Thanks for the tip-off. I will tarry no longer, and listen to the Sary.

Ah! But whose Sary, now, Bryn?

[BBMmk2]

Ferney, I pput this here, as I know we haven't a thread going on the Sunday morning equivalent.

I sent them a couple of tweets at my dismay for playing Andre Lloyd Webbers rocked up Paganini Variations, featuring his brother on cello, plus a most excruiating treatment of a work by Gesualdo.

[Richard Tarleton]

Ferney, I pput this here, as I know we haven't a thread going on the Sunday morning equivalent.

We have, BBM, we have, here.... - it started with an apposite and topical post from the much-missed Calum....