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  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37678

    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
    Maestro Honeck does not appear to have recorded any Copland so my hopes are high for the later part of tomorrow's programme... Indeed, a rather grown-up item is listed:

    Braunfels
    Benedictus (Grosse Messe, Op.37)

    Simone Schneider (soprano)
    Stuttgart State Opera Chorus
    Stuttgart State Orchestra
    Manfred Honeck (conductor)

    If there are any Braunfels sites we should quickly start building on them.

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    • Richard Tarleton

      Originally posted by hmvman View Post
      Beethoven 7 today. Sounded good to me. I've enjoyed what I've heard of the Honeck recordings this week.
      He seemed to slam on the brakes for a slow and ponderously stately trio section in the 3rd movement. I had a listen to Toscanini - who I believe observes Beethoven's much-discussed metronome markings - afterwards. He dances through it on tiptoe.

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      • Stanfordian
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 9310

        Originally posted by hmvman View Post
        Beethoven 7 today. Sounded good to me. I've enjoyed what I've heard of the Honeck recordings this week.
        Hiya hmvmann,

        That new Honeck recording of the Beethoven symphonies 5 & 7 with the Pittsburgh SO on the Reference Recordings label is stunning and just has to be one of my Records of the Year. There will nearly always be different approaches taken over aspects of their work by various conductors and that doesn't bother me. I welcome it!
        Last edited by Stanfordian; 27-11-15, 22:19.

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        • hmvman
          Full Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 1099

          Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
          Hiya hmvmann,

          That new Honeck recording of the Beethoven symphonies 5 & 7 with the Pittsburgh SO on the Reference Recordings label is stunning and just has to be one of my Records of the Year. There will nearly always be different approaches taken over aspects of ther work by various conductors and that doesn't bother.
          Thanks, Stanfordian. I think I need to have a proper listen to the 7 again via iPlayer.

          The different approaches to musical works is one of the great joys of life!

          Have a great weekend.

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          • DublinJimbo
            Full Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1222

            Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
            That new Honeck recording of the Beethoven symphonies 5 & 7 with the Pittsburgh SO on the Reference Recordings label is stunning and just has to be one of my Records of the Year. There will nearly always be different approaches taken over aspects of their work by various conductors and that doesn't bother me.
            Agreed. There are moments when I'm taken aback by what he does, but there's no denying the overall musical intelligence behind the interpretation. Performance and recording are exemplary.

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            • Rex Bartlett
              Full Member
              • Dec 2015
              • 19

              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
              Sweet Jesus the 'music backwards' game is f***ing* pathetic ! What is the point?! That bit of Vltava sounds the same backwards as forwards! I can't work out who is humiliated more by it - poor Rob Cowan who has to read it out and encourage people to have a another go if they thought 'Peer Gynt' first time, the producers who foist it on him, or people listening in who "tweetortext"...



              Can't believe this hasn't been discreetly junked along with some of the other morning crap.




              *flaming
              Well I absolutely love the 9.30am Brain Teaser question. So there!

              I've had my name read out 3 times (so far) and am as insensed as you when my genius goes unacknowledged.

              And I'm particularly fond of the Music Played Backwards question because on the rare occasion when it's not bleeding obvious, I can and do cheat. I was particularly red faced when on one occasion I was the only person in the land to get it right and the only person to have their name read out (together with toe-curling personal congratulations from Sarah) after I had recorded it and used my computer software to reverse it and hear it the right way round. Mind, it was a relatively obscure though possibly my favourite movement from a Mozart piano sonata that just happened to be open on my piano and which I had been serendipitously playing the evening before. Clearly my moment of fame just had to be. Even so, I'm pleased for this opportunity to confess.

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30283

                Originally posted by Rex Bartlett View Post
                Even so, I'm pleased for this opportunity to confess.
                Indeed, confession is good for the soul, RB - and welcome to the forum
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20570

                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  Indeed, confession is good for the soul, RB - and welcome to the forum
                  There are some things that should aways remain unspoken.

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                  • Stanfordian
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 9310

                    Originally posted by Rex Bartlett View Post
                    Well I absolutely love the 9.30am Brain Teaser question. So there!

                    I've had my name read out 3 times (so far) and am as insensed as you when my genius goes unacknowledged.

                    And I'm particularly fond of the Music Played Backwards question because on the rare occasion when it's not bleeding obvious, I can and do cheat. I was particularly red faced when on one occasion I was the only person in the land to get it right and the only person to have their name read out (together with toe-curling personal congratulations from Sarah) after I had recorded it and used my computer software to reverse it and hear it the right way round. Mind, it was a relatively obscure though possibly my favourite movement from a Mozart piano sonata that just happened to be open on my piano and which I had been serendipitously playing the evening before. Clearly my moment of fame just had to be. Even so, I'm pleased for this opportunity to confess.
                    Hiya Rex,

                    It takes all sorts!

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      Originally posted by Rex Bartlett View Post
                      Well I absolutely love the 9.30am Brain Teaser question.
                      Why?
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26533

                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        Why?
                        I think someone may be pulling our chains...
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          I think someone may be pulling our chains...
                          Ah! Flushed with success, perhaps?
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • Pulcinella
                            Host
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 10921

                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            Ah! Flushed with success, perhaps?
                            Or disposing of the sick bag?

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                            • ahinton
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 16122

                              Originally posted by Rex Bartlett View Post
                              Well I absolutely love the 9.30am Brain Teaser question. So there!
                              It might be an appropriate economy in our cash-strapped times to merge it with the Music played Backwards thing, given that it's an anagram of "Reseat Brian"; then they could play some music by Brian (Ferneyhough) himself (preferably forwards), which I'm sure would please fhg who questions what you like about it...

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                              • ahinton
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 16122

                                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                                Ah! Flushed with success, perhaps?
                                Or incisterns upon it?

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