Essential Classics - The Continuing Debate

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  • Bax-of-Delights
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    • Nov 2010
    • 745

    Nanette Newman more likely. The programme is already up to its armpits in the soapy stuff...
    O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26523

      Originally posted by peterthekeys View Post
      Turned on R3 this morning - Essential Classics

      blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

      "O Fortuna" from Carmina Burana

      blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

      Two movements from the Britten serenade

      blah blah blah (etc ad nauseam)

      Is this programme actually about music?
      I see that was Mr Cowan interviewing the "household name" Fleur Adcock [Who she? Ed.] In any event, poor Rob's hamfisted interviewing technique is to be avoided.

      However, I mean to catch up with the following two weeks' interviews, first as it's Sarah Walker (who has imo turned into a very deft interviewer) and second as the individuals are two of my favourite actors, John Lithgow and Sam Neill. All very Hollywood.... and no guarantees of course about the quality of their musical taste. It's one of the advantages of the podcasts, though - the extracts are brief, so naff musical choices are easily endured.

      All of which goes to answer your final question - not really, between 10 and 10.30...
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
        Nanette Newman more likely. The programme is already up to its armpits in the soapy stuff...
        Oh, very good
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • ahinton
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 16122

          Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
          Nanette Newman more likely. The programme is already up to its armpits in the soapy stuff...
          No, no, (not) Nanette!...

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            Fragmente/Stille

            (Nono Quartet)
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
              • 37589

              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              Fragmente/Stille

              (Nono Quartet)
              I come not Dupre's, but to Berio.

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                I come not Dupre's, but to Berio.
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • ahinton
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 16122

                  Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                  I come not Dupre's, but to Berio.
                  Whilst I suspect that this should perhaps have been posted on the Current Favourite Jokes thread, it is much appreciated, believe me!

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26523

                    Brahms 3 - Günter Wand / NDR SO....

                    Never heard that before - terrific !!


                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26523

                      Originally posted by Zucchini
                      But is it big boned, hewn out of granite and old fashioned or light, bright and spritely - the latter being my preference for both symphonies and concertos?
                      Agreed - and it was very much the latter, to my surprise: I started listening after the start and without reference to playlists, so was trying to guess who was performing. Fleet tempi (a distinctly un-soupy third movement), punchy brass and vigorous rhythms - I was thinking one of the young bloods, Jurowski perhaps, or someone like Ticciati... then I thought the quality of the playing was such, could it be Chailly getting his new broom to Brahms with Leipzig, like his Beethoven... I was surprised when RC announced afterwards that it was old Günter in Northern Germany in the early 1980s....
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • Stanfordian
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 9308

                        Originally posted by Zucchini
                        But is it big boned, hewn out of granite and old fashioned or light, bright and spritely - the latter being my preference for both symphonies and concertos?
                        Hiya Zucchini,

                        I would put the masterful Wand's Brahms performances with the NDR Sinfonieorchester somewhere in the middle of those extremes.

                        Regarding the Wand set I most admire, he recorded Brahms symphonies with the NDR Sinfonieorchester in 1990-92 live from the Köln Philharmonie and Hamburg Musikhalle available on Hanssler Profil. Earlier in 1982-83 Wand also with NDR Sinfonieorchester had made a studio recording of the Brahms symphonies for RCA Red Seal; to considerableconsiderable acclaim.

                        The more I hear Gunter Wand's recordings the more I relish them. I believe he was a genius.
                        Last edited by Stanfordian; 29-09-15, 18:08.

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                        • teamsaint
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 25193

                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          Agreed - and it was very much the latter, to my surprise: I started listening after the start and without reference to playlists, so was trying to guess who was performing. Fleet tempi (a distinctly un-soupy third movement), punchy brass and vigorous rhythms - I was thinking one of the young bloods, Jurowski perhaps, or someone like Ticciati... then I thought the quality of the playing was such, could it be Chailly getting his new broom to Brahms with Leipzig, like his Beethoven... I was surprised when RC announced afterwards that it was old Günter in Northern Germany in the early 1980s....
                          buy the box , you know you want to. Won't fit on your nice shelving though.......

                          Incidentally, I was listening to his Beethoven 8 with the same lot the other day, which I thought was rather let down by an unsprightly third movement, although elsewhere very good. Although that was after listening to some more recent recordings including David " now you see it now you don't " Zinman....
                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                          • peterthekeys
                            Full Member
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 246

                            Over and over and over again

                            Whilst listening to this programme, I've noticed that when an item is announced, my usual reaction is a despairing groan of: "Oh no, not again!". I've lost track of the number of times I've heard Bernstein's symphonic dances from West Side Story and Pablo Casals' arrangement of the Birds folksong. I wonder who selects the items for inclusion? Surely it can't be the presenters - knowing that most of them are skilled and knowledgeable musicians and musicologists in their own right, I just can't imagine that, left to their own devices, they would select such boring and repetitive fare.

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                            • Lento
                              Full Member
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 646

                              Nicholas Parsons going on at length about himself this morning. Uncharitable of me, I suppose: he is getting on a bit!

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                              • teamsaint
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 25193

                                Originally posted by peterthekeys View Post
                                Whilst listening to this programme, I've noticed that when an item is announced, my usual reaction is a despairing groan of: "Oh no, not again!". I've lost track of the number of times I've heard Bernstein's symphonic dances from West Side Story and Pablo Casals' arrangement of the Birds folksong. I wonder who selects the items for inclusion? Surely it can't be the presenters - knowing that most of them are skilled and knowledgeable musicians and musicologists in their own right, I just can't imagine that, left to their own devices, they would select such boring and repetitive fare.

                                somewhat different skill sets required I wold have thought, PTK ?
                                Last edited by teamsaint; 12-10-15, 18:05.
                                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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