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  • pastoralguy
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7737

    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    I really used to love this work.
    I've never much liked this piece but, having been force fed it forever, I really loath it now!

    The same as that bloody 'Candide' Overture...

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 20570

      Rob's guest this a.m. was David Puttnam. I liked his comments on education.

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      • EdgeleyRob
        Guest
        • Nov 2010
        • 12180

        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        I really used to love this work.
        I still do and always will.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          Rob's guest this a.m. was David Puttnam. I liked his comments on education.
          Is this a repeat? I'm sure he's "been on" before and commented on education? (It can't be deja vu all over again, because I didn't listen yesterday.)

          They do occasionally have interesting guests - and might well use these to defend the many others who, nice enough in themselves, really have nothing to offer - but, as a personal preference, I just don't want to hear such chatter instead of Music at that time of day. If I did, I'd chose R4. Beyond "Listen Again", the BBC doesn't offer me the type of listening I prefer before noon - so I generally avoid the BBC and catch up on my CD collection.
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • Lento
            Full Member
            • Jan 2014
            • 646

            I thought larks were a declining species.

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            • subcontrabass
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 2780

              I see that EC has now taken to recycling guests.

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30241

                Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
                I see that EC has now taken to recycling guests.
                The BBC tends to 'make friends' with various contributors and invite them back again and again. SRB has become a BBC 'favourite son'. (And they can say, "It's always a pleasure to have you back on the show." To which they then reply, "It's always a pleasure to be here.")
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20570

                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  The BBC tends to 'make friends' with various contributors and invite them back again and again. SRB has become a BBC 'favourite son'. (And they can say, "It's always a pleasure to have you back on the show." To which they then reply, "It's always a pleasure to be here.")
                  I know. Far from being more inclusive, R3 has become a club for the in-crowd.

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30241

                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                    I know. Far from being more inclusive, R3 has become a club for the in-crowd.
                    It's been said before, but … When you hear two presenters, with their Clemmy-Rob-Sarah-Petroc, as listeners you actually feel left out. They do seem to feel that they're genuinely creating a friendly welcoming atmosphere. (My feeling is, 'Oh, go on, talk among yourselves if you want to.') It was always the received wisdom that presenters should give the impression that they were addressing the individuals at home, which doesn't happen whether they're talking to each other or to guests. And talking to guests like SRB who have a musical background isn't like talking in an enlightening way to a professional/expert.

                    Rule 1: Presenters should not be chosen just because they are well-known musicians.

                    Rule 2: Guests should not be chosen just because they are well-known celebrities.
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Stanfordian
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 9308

                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      It's been said before, but … When you hear two presenters, with their Clemmy-Rob-Sarah-Petroc, as listeners you actually feel left out. They do seem to feel that they're genuinely creating a friendly welcoming atmosphere. (My feeling is, 'Oh, go on, talk among yourselves if you want to.') It was always the received wisdom that presenters should give the impression that they were addressing the individuals at home, which doesn't happen whether they're talking to each other or to guests. And talking to guests like SRB who have a musical background isn't like talking in an enlightening way to a professional/expert.

                      Rule 1: Presenters should not be chosen just because they are well-known musicians.

                      Rule 2: Guests should not be chosen just because they are well-known celebrities.
                      Hello french frank,

                      You are so right. Or the wives and husbands of well-known celebrities. Such as being an ex-wife of Stephen Hawking.
                      Last edited by Stanfordian; 23-06-15, 09:12.

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        ... or even the ex-wife of Stephen Hawking!
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • gurnemanz
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7380

                          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                          I know. Far from being more inclusive, R3 has become a club for the in-crowd.
                          I assume agents also play a big part in getting their clients as guests onto certain shows.

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                          • Honoured Guest

                            Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                            I assume agents also play a big part in getting their clients as guests onto certain shows.
                            "Certain" being the operative word here. Obviously, guesting on Graham Norton has excellent publicity value, and the agent's cut of the fee might be of some value on tv, although probably not for his radio show. But surely guesting on Radio 3 is of more benefit to the station, with crossover appeal to some of the general audience if not to the Forumistas, than it is of much value to the guests' agents or even to the guests themselves.

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                            • cloughie
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22114

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              It's been said before, but … When you hear two presenters, with their Clemmy-Rob-Sarah-Petroc, as listeners you actually feel left out. They do seem to feel that they're genuinely creating a friendly welcoming atmosphere. (My feeling is, 'Oh, go on, talk among yourselves if you want to.') It was always the received wisdom that presenters should give the impression that they were addressing the individuals at home, which doesn't happen whether they're talking to each other or to guests. And talking to guests like SRB who have a musical background isn't like talking in an enlightening way to a professional/expert.

                              Rule 1: Presenters should not be chosen just because they are well-known musicians.

                              Rule 2: Guests should not be chosen just because they are well-known celebrities.
                              I agree with Rule 1. Rule 2 - guests should not be a feature of EC.

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20570

                                Originally posted by Honoured Guest View Post
                                But surely guesting on Radio 3 is of more benefit to the station, with crossover appeal to some of the general audience if not to the Forumistas, than it is of much value to the guests' agents or even to the guests themselves.
                                It's of no benefit to the station whatever.

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