I was surprised that a man of Rob's experience has yet to master German umlauts which he must come across quite often in the course of his work and are not really that difficult to grasp. He would probably not refer to Olaf Bar or Wilhelm Furtwangler but has has just referred to Eberhard Wächter as "Wachter" not "Wechter". The singer is fairly well known. Surely we are justified in expecting professional announcers to get these things right.
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Originally posted by gurnemanz View PostI was surprised that a man of Rob's experience has yet to master German umlauts which he must come across quite often in the course of his work and are not really that difficult to grasp. He would probably not refer to Olaf Bar or Wilhelm Furtwangler but has has just referred to Eberhard Wächter as "Wachter" not "Wechter". The singer is fairly well known. Surely we are justified in expecting professional announcers to get these things right.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostSometimes I wonder whether part of the problem (sometimes) is that anything entered with a keyboard simply has its accents omitted. This, of course, only means that unfamiliar names are likely to get mispronounced. Those who know just 'tut' with annoyance.
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Originally posted by gurnemanz View PostI was surprised that a man of Rob's experience has yet to master German umlauts which he must come across quite often in the course of his work and are not really that difficult to grasp. He would probably not refer to Olaf Bar or Wilhelm Furtwangler but has has just referred to Eberhard Wächter as "Wachter" not "Wechter". The singer is fairly well known. Surely we are justified in expecting professional announcers to get these things right.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostSometimes I wonder whether part of the problem (sometimes) is that anything entered with a keyboard simply has its accents omitted. This, of course, only means that unfamiliar names are likely to get mispronounced. Those who know just 'tut' with annoyance.
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Originally posted by underthecountertenor View PostI was astonished that RC mispronounced Wächter twice. We know he lacks expertise in foreign languages, but as a professed expert in the history of recorded classical music, he MUST be aware of Wächter, and must surely have heard his name correctly pronounced before. He was Giulini's Don Giovanni for goodness' sake. It made me question how much he really knows. (Also, a minute or so later, Emmanuel Pa-Who??)
And yesterday ....."...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by underthecountertenor View PostIt made me question how much he really knows.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View Post. This being my point of view, I have (with regret, because was fun ) unjoined a certain Facebook group ...
A propos, I must repost Richard's wonderful analogy which still gives me regular chuckles when I think of it between 9am and midday:
Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View PostRob regards foreign words rather as a horse and rider might regard the jumps at the Horse of the Year Show - pause, gather yourself, go for it. "Les Musiciens du Louvre" would represent something on the puissance course, I should imagine. Four faults a fairly regular occurrence."...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by Caliban View Post[COLOR="#0000FF"]Which one which one? I might enjoy it!
[I will email it to you, for reasons to be explained.
and is (usually) very good natured. But since Friends of Radio 3 makes a point of not 'attacking' individual presenters (bigger fish to fry), I felt the particular focus on the Essential Classics presenters was not really compatible with this aimIt isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostIt is fun:
I will email it to you, for reasons to be explained.
and is (usually) very good natured.
He's game for a laugh, I understand!
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by Caliban View Post
A propos, I must repost Richard's wonderful analogy which still gives me regular chuckles when I think of it between 9am and midday:
Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View PostRob regards foreign words rather as a horse and rider might regard the jumps at the Horse of the Year Show - pause, gather yourself, go for it. "Les Musiciens du Louvre" would represent something on the puissance course, I should imagine. Four faults a fairly regular occurrence.
And as for anything by the Ensemble Intercontemporain....
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post... I think the too-frequent programming of the Pavane pour une Infante Défunte is brought about by the malevolent intentions of a high-up in Radio Three who wishes to inflict pain on unknowing announcers...
And as for anything by the Ensemble Intercontemporain....
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post- and that's definitely a flaxen horse
But that ain't no filly in the saddle....!!
(The rider actually does look spookily like Rob Cowan, now I look again!)"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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