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  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    An almost angelic patronymic, what?

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30301

      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
      An almost angelic patronymic, what?
      Would make a good pair with Cherubini.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • AndyJW
        Full Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 78

        I have a couple of CDs that I have copied into iTunes - Brahmns violin concerto / Kennedy and The Eagles greatest hits - and both come up in Japanese (I think) symbols on the ipod screen.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20570

          Are we going to be asked to text our thoughts on live concerts next?

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          • Sir Velo
            Full Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 3229

            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
            Just to say that while I only remember a few, mainly chemistry related, words of Russian from my "Science Russian" classes at school, I can transliterate Cyrilic easily enough. I just thought it amusing that the Beeb appeared to expect all Essential Classics listeners to be conversant with it.
            Here is the response from the Essential Classics team:

            Hi,

            We'll pass on your comments to the BBC department which runs and develops the website, as they are responsible for how performers are listed.

            The performer is Kirill Kondrashin. If you click on any of the red-highlighted performers on a playlist you are taken to their biography page and their full name is listed there in English.

            With best wishes,
            The Essential Classics Team

            So, not my responsibility Guv, innit?

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            • teamsaint
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 25210

              Originally posted by AndyJW View Post
              I have a couple of CDs that I have copied into iTunes - Brahmns violin concerto / Kennedy and The Eagles greatest hits - and both come up in Japanese (I think) symbols on the ipod screen.
              My Bertini Mahler set does the same.

              The Eagles, you say.....

              Er, what I meant to say was, I have heard a bit of RC this week. How I wish they would set him free. (but take away his Slavonic and Hungarian dances beforehand!)
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30301

                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                What it surely shows is that whoever prepared the online playlist hadn't a clue who it was and just pasted the Cyrillic version. I noticed this a couple of days ago where a couple of works had the conductor as Васи́лий Серафи́мович Сина́йский .

                http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03bfpm4
                Now altered to Vassily Serafimovich Sinaisky...
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Bryn
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  Now altered to Vassily Serafimovich Sinaisky...
                  Cyrillic? Pah! From today's Saturday Classics listing

                  John Adams Nixon in China - Act 1 sc.1; News has a kind of mystery

                  Singer: Robert Orth. Singer: 袁晨野. Orchestra: Colorado Symphony Orchestra. Conductor: Marin Alsop.

                  NAXOS : 8.669022, Naxos, 6

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                  • Thropplenoggin
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 1587

                    The ideograms are hyperlinked, clicking through gets you to Yuan Chenye. Born 1976.

                    So how difficult would it have been for someone to do what I just did and write the name in English?

                    My guess is that these listings are automatically generated.
                    It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30301

                      Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                      My guess is that these listings are automatically generated.
                      Probably. And no one goes through them to check, as if it wouldn't be better to at least change them after they'd been displayed for an hour or so rather than not look at all. They just don't have anyone to spare with that level of knowledge. Or the technical knowledge plus the knowledge to foresee the problems.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Thropplenoggin
                        Full Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 1587

                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        Probably. And no one goes through them to check, as if it wouldn't be better to at least change them after they'd been displayed for an hour or so rather than not look at all. They just don't have anyone to spare with that level of knowledge. Or the technical knowledge plus the knowledge to foresee the problems.
                        One less salary to pay = value for money to the customer, right? Right???

                        Trebles all round.
                        It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                        • mercia
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 8920

                          I'm not convinced that guests always want to be manhandled

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26538

                            Originally posted by mercia View Post
                            I'm not convinced that guests always want to be manhandled
                            http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/galleries/p01kgf2x
                            Couldn't agree more, mercs!

                            The grip looks just a little too tight, his grin a little too sinister, hers a little too ... fixed... !

                            Hey! It's Hallowe'en!
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30301

                              Originally posted by mercia View Post
                              I'm not convinced that guests always want to be manhandled
                              http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/galleries/p01kgf2x
                              That's what I call an Eric Morcambe hug
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26538

                                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                                That's what I call an Eric Morcambe hug


                                - What do you think of it so far, Penelope?

                                - Ruggish!!
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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