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  • vinteuil
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 12788

    ... from the Radio Times today :

    "Katherine Jenkins has always been an evangelist for classical music and the Welsh mezzo-soprano now brings her pitch-perfect proselytising to Classic FM for this new 12-part series. And she reckons her musical choices for this global exploration are ideal for both beginners and buffs: "These are the pieces of music I like to think of as essential classics. So, whether you're just getting into classical music or you're already a fan, I promise you the best, and the most beautiful, on a journey that will take us around the world and across the centuries." Future episodes focus on such diverse areas as film soundtracks, Russian music and opera but today she concentrates on the best of British, from Purcell to Britten, Elgar and Vaughan Williams to Maxwell Davies and Karl Jenkins."

    Is there now any difference - any difference at all? - between the morning offerings of Radio Three and those of Classic FM??

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    • Thropplenoggin
      Full Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 1587

      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
      ... from the Radio Times today :

      "Katherine Jenkins has always been an evangelist for classical music and the Welsh mezzo-soprano now brings her pitch-perfect proselytising to Classic FM for this new 12-part series. And she reckons her musical choices for this global exploration are ideal for both beginners and buffs: "These are the pieces of music I like to think of as essential classics. So, whether you're just getting into classical music or you're already a fan, I promise you the best, and the most beautiful, on a journey that will take us around the world and across the centuries." Future episodes focus on such diverse areas as film soundtracks, Russian music and opera but today she concentrates on the best of British, from Purcell to Britten, Elgar and Vaughan Williams to Maxwell Davies and Karl Jenkins."

      Is there now any difference - any difference at all? - between the morning offerings of Radio Three and those of Classic FM??
      Classic FM ain't got no Cowan; the man appears a veritable deipnosophist in comparison.
      It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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      • teamsaint
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 25193

        Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
        Classic FM ain't got no Cowan; the man appears a veritable deipnosophist in comparison.
        Throppo, did you ever have a creative input into "The Good Old Days?"
        too young perhaps.
        If they revive it.....offer your services !
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • Thropplenoggin
          Full Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 1587

          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
          Throppo, did you ever have a creative input into "The Good Old Days?"
          too young perhaps.
          If they revive it.....offer your services !
          And there I was thinking myself a pioneer in the art of perspicacious persiflage....



          Huzzah!
          It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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          • teamsaint
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 25193

            Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
            And there I was thinking myself a pioneer in the art of perspicacious persiflage....



            Huzzah!
            if not the original then the best, 'Noggo !!

            Glad i don't have to play you at scrabble. If we meet queuing at the RAH, don't bother getting the board out.
            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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            • Thropplenoggin
              Full Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 1587

              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
              if not the original then the best, 'Noggo !!

              Glad i don't have to play you at scrabble. If we meet queuing at the RAH, don't bother getting the board out.
              Too kind, sir.

              In my experience, it's the funny little words - Qi and such - that are Scrabble winners. I expect your critical theory -isms would stand you in good stead.
              It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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              • Thropplenoggin
                Full Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 1587

                I enjoyed the JC Bach Symphony in G Minor played this morning by Concerto Coln. A new work to me, but lovely, just lovely, especially the slow movement.
                It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                • vinteuil
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12788

                  Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                  Classic FM ain't got no Cowan.
                  ... yes, Classic FM certainly does have that advantage.

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                  • Thropplenoggin
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 1587

                    Someone needs to tell Rob Cowan the CD's stuck.

                    Oh, it's meant to sound like that?!



                    It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                      Someone needs to tell Rob Cowan the CD's stuck.

                      Oh, it's meant to sound like that?!



                      "Oh dear. How sad. Never mind."

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                      • Thropplenoggin
                        Full Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 1587

                        It lulled me into a false sense of thinking it was interesting. 2 minutes of this pattern...and change slightly...for another 2 minutes. I was not so much entranced as feeling nauseous by the 7th minute (I did try).
                        It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                        • Richard Tarleton

                          Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                          It lulled me into a false sense of thinking it was interesting. 2 minutes of this pattern...and change slightly...for another 2 minutes. I was not so much entranced as feeling nauseous by the 7th minute (I did try).
                          Throppers - and pace Bryn - I too gave it my best shot, indeed I stuck with it as I'd missed the name of the composer - the effect of the music involuntary and physiological, nothing to do with philistinism or similar. A knot of tension forms at the back of my head. There must be some research on the effect of minimalist music on the brain, or some people's brains, I'd be grateful for a link. I can confirm that it's dangerous to listen to it while driving.

                          The curious thing is I do like the Penguin Café Orchestra which has minimalist tendencies.

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                          • Thropplenoggin
                            Full Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 1587

                            Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                            Throppers - and pace Bryn - I too gave it my best shot, indeed I stuck with it as I'd missed the name of the composer - the effect of the music involuntary and physiological, nothing to do with philistinism or similar. A knot of tension forms at the back of my head. There must be some research on the effect of minimalist music on the brain, or some people's brains, I'd be grateful for a link. I can confirm that it's dangerous to listen to it while driving.

                            The curious thing is I do like the Penguin Café Orchestra which has minimalist tendencies.
                            Well put, Richard.

                            And there I was expecting to be awash in waves of forumite-opprobrium...
                            It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                              ... I can confirm that it's dangerous to listen to it while driving.
                              Hmm, I listen to it fairly often (I have several recordings of the work) while driving. I find it no hazard at all. Far from it.

                              Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                              The curious thing is I do like the Penguin Café Orchestra which has minimalist tendencies.
                              May I recommend the Nadia Tass film Malcolm to you. Jeffes's music is used most effectively in it. The convertible car (no, not the stripped down tram on the DVD's cover) is a real gem.

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                              • Richard Tarleton

                                Thank you on both counts Bryn.

                                I've just googled Effect on listener of minimalist music, in an attempt to understand its effect on me. It seems to be a huge subject.

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