Essential Classics - The Continuing Debate

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  • antongould
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 8833

    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    This morning, as I drove my car to get the brakes repaired I switched on Radio 3, just before SK announced the day’s “playlist” starter piece for that tired well-past-its-sell-by-date request for a companion piece. As usual, she effectively told the listeners what to think, but two things disturbed me:
    1. The radio display no longer said “Essential Classics”. Instead, it said “Suzy Klein”. That really is a sign of the times.
    2. SK was encouraging selfish, thoughtless and antisocial behaviour, by suggesting we chose another piece we might use in a garden barbecue. My opinion of the aforementioned has now sunk even lower.
    Interestingly, to me at least, there has been has been a very useful enhancement to Sounds - don’t know if it’s already been mentioned - but now the title of each track appears as soon as it starts on your smartphone, car radio, whatever ...... as I was listening to Skellers in the car this morning you get the name of the composer and the title of the piece with movement number where applicable. No mention of Skellers .... as I never listen the the schoolmarm I don’t know if she has it written into her contract that her name appears instead of the composer ......

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    • vinteuil
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12937

      Originally posted by DracoM View Post
      Aha!! GM, eh?
      Did she get it because of hr initials? erm...................
      ... guided missile? good morning? genetically modified? gluteus maximus? general merit? god machine? god's message? green manure? greater manchester? gastric mucosa? grand marnier?

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37820

        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
        ... guided missile? good morning? genetically modified? gluteus maximus? general merit? god machine? god's message? green manure? greater manchester? gastric mucosa? grand marnier?

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        Great Mixpectations!

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30457

          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          ... guided missile? good morning? genetically modified? gluteus maximus? general merit? god machine? god's message? green manure? greater manchester? gastric mucosa? grand marnier?

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          I just dismissed it as General Motors, though I think you may have hit upon it within your list, monsieur.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22182

            Originally posted by antongould View Post
            Interestingly, to me at least, there has been has been a very useful enhancement to Sounds - don’t know if it’s already been mentioned - but now the title of each track appears as soon as it starts on your smartphone, car radio, whatever ...... as I was listening to Skellers in the car this morning you get the name of the composer and the title of the piece with movement number where applicable. No mention of Skellers .... as I never listen the the schoolmarm I don’t know if she has it written into her contract that her name appears instead of the composer ......
            What would be useful in the listing would be the performers as well as the titles - but perhaps this is a bit too much of a chore for them. Perhaps if there were less, longer items it would be easier - this morning’s 30 items in 3 hours is rather a lot!

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            • oddoneout
              Full Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 9275

              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
              What would be useful in the listing would be the performers as well as the titles - but perhaps this is a bit too much of a chore for them. Perhaps if there were less, longer items it would be easier - this morning’s 30 items in 3 hours is rather a lot!
              I would pass on the performers if the online info was correct and timely for those of us listening in real time! The lag means that the listings can be two or 3 items adrift of what is actually being played. Not helpful for the new audience and less R3 typical listener they claim to want, and tiresome I find if I just want to check while I have the computer on, rather than having to make a note and look it up later in the day. They know in advance what is going to be played for everything except the playlist slot so it shouldn't be that hard.

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              • antongould
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 8833

                Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                I would pass on the performers if the online info was correct and timely for those of us listening in real time! The lag means that the listings can be two or 3 items adrift of what is actually being played. Not helpful for the new audience and less R3 typical listener they claim to want, and tiresome I find if I just want to check while I have the computer on, rather than having to make a note and look it up later in the day. They know in advance what is going to be played for everything except the playlist slot so it shouldn't be that hard.
                Yes OOO real-time at the moment is not good but the Sounds is excellent when Skellers played our four-tracker playlist each title was there with the first note ..... I think cloughers the information displayed is as per Andrew’s wonderful downloads which doesn’t IIRC have artist ....... on R2 if I think you get artist and title no composer .....

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                • Andrew Slater
                  Full Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 1797

                  Originally posted by antongould View Post
                  ..... I think cloughers the information displayed is as per Andrew’s wonderful downloads which doesn’t IIRC have artist ....... on R2 if I think you get artist and title no composer .....
                  The information is actually available on the playlists, and reflected in my linear lists and the downloadable CSV file. My database has provision for artist information but during testing it was proving to double the database size, so I removed it: it can be accessed fairly easily by clicking on "R3 Link", but I'm considering linking to the CSV file for a local display.

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                  • antongould
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 8833

                    Originally posted by Andrew Slater View Post
                    The information is actually available on the playlists, and reflected in my linear lists and the downloadable CSV file. My database has provision for artist information but during testing it was proving to double the database size, so I removed it: it can be accessed fairly easily by clicking on "R3 Link", but I'm considering linking to the CSV file for a local display.
                    Thanks as ever Andrew .....

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                    • boesendorfer
                      Full Member
                      • Mar 2019
                      • 14

                      Haydn symphonies all sound the same

                      I thought I wasn't dreaming: this morning SZ promised us one of Haydn's Paris symphonies but we were treated to the first movement of 104. I see from the Schedule that the intended movement (4th of No. 84, I think) has been changed to match the facts. I was amazed that she didn't apologise - surely she listens to her own choices?! Perhaps she was too embarrassed....

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                      • vinteuil
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12937

                        Originally posted by antongould View Post
                        Yes OOO real-time at the moment is not good .....
                        OOO?

                        Out of office? Out of order execution? Object-oriented ontology? общество с ограниченной ответственностью??

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30457

                          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                          OOO?

                          Out of office? Out of order execution? Object-oriented ontology? общество с ограниченной ответственностью??

                          .
                          oddoneout?
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • oddoneout
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 9275

                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            OOO?

                            Out of office? Out of order execution? Object-oriented ontology? общество с ограниченной ответственностью??

                            .
                            Me.

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30457

                              Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                              Me.
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • cloughie
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 22182

                                Originally posted by Andrew Slater View Post
                                The information is actually available on the playlists, and reflected in my linear lists and the downloadable CSV file. My database has provision for artist information but during testing it was proving to double the database size, so I removed it: it can be accessed fairly easily by clicking on "R3 Link", but I'm considering linking to the CSV file for a local display.
                                They are not on the tracklists on Sounds which I thought would be the best place! Am I in a minority of listeners who are interested in the performers as well as the pieces?

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