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Essential Classics - The Continuing Debate
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Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View PostYesterday's - about Liszt and Nicholas l - wasn't a "brain-teaser" - it was a historical fact, which you either knew or you didn't. What was the point of asking it? Why guess if you didn't know the answer?
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Originally posted by Caliban View Posta chance to hear Maazel and the Clevelanders in Prokofiev 5....Last edited by Zucchini; 13-11-14, 20:40.
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Originally posted by Lento View PostI suspect they only did it for the amusement value, but if people weren't amused then it would be as you say for many listeners. It was the downward glissando at the "end" that tickled me.
I suppose it was interesting just how easy it was to spot RiB - partly the trill and the glissando, but also just the sound of the orchestration. Much harder to have a solo instrument piece with no tell-tale 'effects'..."...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by Zucchini View Post(the reason for going) Piemontese playing Beethoven 4 with extreme elegance and simplicity on a gorgeous piano. Good
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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What really bugs me about the Prok 5 cock-up (and on many similar occasions) is that there was no apparent studio supervision. Maybe Rob and his producer were too busy reminiscing over Schnitzelhausen's 1952 performance of Liszt's something-or-other to notice what was actually going out. Surely someone, somewhere, has responsibility for monitoring live output, in which case this should have been stopped and restarted within the first few seconds.
On the other hand, maybe be next week's brain teaser could be "Guess the order of symphonic movements".
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Originally posted by Stan Drews View PostWhat really bugs me about the Prok 5 cock-up (and on many similar occasions) is that there was no apparent studio supervision. Maybe Rob and his producer were too busy reminiscing over Schnitzelhausen's 1952 performance of Liszt's something-or-other to notice what was actually going out. Surely someone, somewhere, has responsibility for monitoring live output, in which case this should have been stopped and restarted within the first few seconds.
On the other hand, maybe be next week's brain teaser could be "Guess the order of symphonic movements".
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Originally posted by antongould View PostBut is it not the big question that I may have missed the answer to - who chooses the music?
Now they use these automated playout systems I expect no one knows what to do if something goes wrong and they just have to wring their hands and wait for it to STOP. In this case they seem to have been notified by email from a listener ...It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostPresumably Rob in this case, since he said he was considering including Caliban's two favourites anyway before the system malfunctioned.
Now they use these automated playout systems I expect no one knows what to do if something goes wrong and they just have to wring their hands and wait for it to STOP. In this case they seem to have been notified by email from a listener ...
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Originally posted by antongould View PostHate to stress the point but are we sure it is Rob...."...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by antongould View PostHate to stress the point but are we sure it is Rob....It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by antongould View PostHate to stress the point but are we sure it is Rob....
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Originally posted by Stan Drews View PostNone of which comments above answers my original question: who (what?) monitors the live output in these situations?
Also, on Feedback a couple of weeks or so ago, listeners wrote in to complain that scheduled late night programmes on R4 had twice been "replaced" by other programmes which had already been broadcast earlier in the day, even though the Continuity Announcer's comments before and after the programme declared that the advertised programme was about to be/had just been broadcast. Unless I seriously misunderstood the "explanation", the R4 spokesrobot suggested that, at that time of night, there was only a single worker in the studio pressing the buttons for relevant programmes and that, on these occasions, the stress of getting all the right programmes in all the right order had proved a little too much for the person(s) concerned and that they didn't necessarily know if the correct programme was being aired, even if they actually listened to the content itself!Last edited by ferneyhoughgeliebte; 08-11-14, 09:53.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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