Essential Classics - The Continuing Debate

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  • cloughie
    Full Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 22114

    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
    I think it may have been a piece of guest Stuart Copeland's own music.

    I have caught a bit of his interviews. Not very inspiring, though RC seems to have got Ron Shafferty syndrome.......
    Perhaps it was a subliminal Police message!

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    • cloughie
      Full Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 22114

      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      I switched on briefly this morning and caught the D'Indy Fantasia, which I've never heard - rather a well-crafted piece. But then Frau A started shouting at Rob, saying she didn't want to text, tweet or e-mail. I just wish he could rebel without facing the sack from a potentially bullying management.
      He gets the good odd thing under the radar every now and then!

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      • Flosshilde
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7988

        Originally posted by mercia View Post
        this was the producer's blog on Bacon, should one be interested
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio3/posts/Bacons-Classics
        Hmm - I wonder what lessons the Breakfast/Essential Classics producers could draw from RB's comment that "It would have been easier to say, well here’s a person who’s not really into classical music, so let’s just give him lots of famous of pieces and lots of gentle pieces and he’ll quite enjoy it. But actually what they [ie listeners who suggested works] did was they covered a difficult range, I think, and there was stuff in there that I did like and that I didn’t like, and there was stuff in there that I only liked when I heard it for the second or third time … So as an introduction I don’t think it could have been better.”"

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30241

          Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
          Hmm - I wonder what lessons the Breakfast/Essential Classics producers could draw from RB's comment
          Shall we try for Chris Evans or Nick Grimshaw next? Looks like the famous and gentle pieces go down well.

          Should add that I don't at all think that such experiments aren't worth doing (or aren't enjoyed by some/many Radio 3 listeners). Just that it's basically a gimmick where Radio 3 promotes itself across the various services in the hope of hooking more people who don't really 'know much about classical music' - good excuse to stick with the famous and gentle pieces that they'll enjoy.

          Am I correctly informed that a tweet was read out this morning that JSB was 'dreary and samey'? Cometh the audience, goeth the knowledge?
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26523

            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            I think it may have been a piece of guest Stuart Copeland's own music.

            I have caught a bit of his interviews. Not very inspiring, though RC seems to have got Ron Shafferty syndrome.......
            Yes I got some of Mr Copeland this morning. If ever the heading to this thread "surely on the wrong station" was true, it was surely about this "guest spot"... I mean, I found Copeland an engaging guy, I like that LA attitude, and he reminded me specifically of Terry Gilliam... plus actually, cycling in the summery sunshine in the park to Desmond Dekker was not unpleasant, rather cool. But is it what I'd tuned into R3 for? NO! There are other radio stations for that. Do Radio 1 or Live365 http://www.live365.com/index.live#st...djhearticaltee etc play Telemann or Schumann sometimes? NO!
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
              .. Do Radio 1 or Live365 http://www.live365.com/index.live#st...djhearticaltee etc play Telemann or Schumann sometimes? NO!
              Oh but they do, they do. It's just that it's as recycled into pop tunes.

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              • Sir Velo
                Full Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 3225

                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                Yes I got some of Mr Copeland this morning. If ever the heading to this thread "surely on the wrong station" was true, it was surely about this "guest spot"... I mean, I found Copeland an engaging guy, I like that LA attitude, and he reminded me specifically of Terry Gilliam... plus actually, cycling in the summery sunshine in the park to Desmond Dekker was not unpleasant, rather cool. But is it what I'd tuned into R3 for? NO! There are other radio stations for that. Do Radio 1 or Live365 http://www.live365.com/index.live#st...djhearticaltee etc play Telemann or Schumann sometimes? NO!
                Unanswerable. That's the sort of post I long to see on the smugly self satisfied Radio 3 Facebook page!

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20570

                  Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                  Unanswerable. That's the sort of post I long to see on the smugly self satisfied Radio 3 Facebook page!
                  Does anyone here post on it?

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                  • Sir Velo
                    Full Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 3225

                    Personally I'd like to see a concerted attack on the R3 facebook page, if only to cause maximum embarrassment. It would be hard for the BBC hierarchy, or the media, to ignore if everyone on here posted intelligent, critical responses to their cultural vandalism.

                    So far, I see only one comment to the blog referred to in post #1004. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio3/posts/Bacons-Classics

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30241

                      Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                      So far, I see only one comment to the blog referred to in post #1004. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio3/posts/Bacons-Classics
                      Even kleines c (aka charlie) has given up stroking them. No idea who that blog commenter is but I gave the comment the

                      Actually, comparatively few listeners post on the Facebook page either, and when did we last see an adverse Twitter comment retweeted? A large proportion of the Facebook 'likers' appear to be based abroad, and most of those who are in the UK are the serial likers who 'Like' everything.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22114

                        I heard Stuart Copeland on yesterday's programme and for someone I take as being a bright rock musician was very surprised that he seemed to intensely dislike Varese - the you can't like everything!

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26523

                          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                          I heard Stuart Copeland on yesterday's programme and for someone I take as being a bright rock musician was very surprised that he seemed to intensely dislike Varese - the you can't like everything!
                          He had me laughing out loud, I confess! "Well that was a catchy tune! Is anybody still listening?"
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • Anna

                            I caught that snippet - turned on, realised it was Varese so stayed listening (thinking it was unusual for EC) and the following interview greatly amused me as well - can't remember verbatim but along the lines of "Well, whoever the composer is - he's having a laugh at our expense isn't he?"

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                            • Serial_Apologist
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37589

                              Originally posted by Anna View Post
                              I caught that snippet - turned on, realised it was Varese so stayed listening (thinking it was unusual for EC) and the following interview greatly amused me as well - can't remember verbatim but along the lines of "Well, whoever the composer is - he's having a laugh at our expense isn't he?"
                              In that case I am definitely lacking in the sense of humour department.

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                              • mercia
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8920

                                Copeland's Percussion Concerto will be part of next Sunday's evening concert, sandwiched between Alassio and Prokofiev 6.

                                Last edited by mercia; 19-05-14, 06:23.

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