Essential Classics - The Continuing Debate

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  • antongould
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 8782

    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
    So you don't have this set then, anton?
    https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...d-air-and-rain
    At the moment no .....

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 20570

      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
      I’m inkleined to think it’s priti bad!


      You'll be made to stand in the corner at haaaaaaaarf paaaaaaaaarst nine.

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      • cloughie
        Full Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 22119

        Currently tuned in to Essential Classics - Suzi is blessed with a clear speaking voice but it is a shame she doesn’t use it, instead she insists on mumbling on air and lowering her voice at the end of sentences. Georgia could give her lessons!

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        • LMcD
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          • Sep 2017
          • 8458

          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
          Currently tuned in to Essential Classics - Suzi is blessed with a clear speaking voice but it is a shame she doesn’t use it, instead she insists on mumbling on air and lowering her voice at the end of sentences. Georgia could give her lessons!
          ... or perhaps she'll have learnt something from working with Lennie Henry?

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
            ... or perhaps she'll have learnt something from working with Lennie Henry?
            Who, in turn, could learn that a sonata for piano and violin is not a symphony (his interview on BBC 1 this morning where he went on about the origin of the Kreutzer Symphony[sic]). Congratulations to him for taking up the piano in his dotage, though (grade 4, heading for grade 5). Good description and promotion of Joplin's Treemonisha, too.
            Last edited by Bryn; 23-09-20, 08:36. Reason: Closed bracket.

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            • LMcD
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              • Sep 2017
              • 8458

              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
              Who, in turn, could learn that a sonata for piano and violin is not a symphony (his interview on BBC 1 this morning where he went on about the origin of the Kreutzer Symphony[sic]. Congratulations to him for taking up the piano in his dotage, though (grade 4, heading for grade 5). Good description and promotion of Joplin's Treemonisha, too.
              More forgivable than Will Gompertz's gaffe on 'Pointless':
              'La Traviata is the by this composer, whose English name 's Joe Green' (V)
              WG's answer: 'Vivaldi'

              LH is more likely to enthuse people than lecture them - if nothing else, he and SK could make an entertaining 'odd couple'.
              Last edited by LMcD; 23-09-20, 08:39.

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              • underthecountertenor
                Full Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 1584

                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                Currently tuned in to Essential Classics - Suzi is blessed with a clear speaking voice but it is a shame she doesn’t use it, instead she insists on mumbling on air and lowering her voice at the end of sentences. Georgia could give her lessons!
                Indeed: every gaffe that Georgia makes is crystal-clear. Her introduction to 'Bach before 7' this morning was a shocker.

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                • antongould
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 8782

                  Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                  More forgivable than Will Gompertz's gaffe on 'Pointless':
                  'La Traviata is the by this composer, whose English name 's Joe Green' (V)
                  WG's answer: 'Vivaldi'

                  LH is more likely to enthuse people than lecture them - if nothing else, he and SK could make an entertaining 'odd couple'.
                  I recall when Lady Strictly Of InTune was on she couldn’t identify Maria Callas in a picture round ........

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                  • cloughie
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                    • Dec 2011
                    • 22119

                    Originally posted by antongould View Post
                    I recall when Lady Strictly Of InTune was on she couldn’t identify Maria Callas in a picture round ........
                    She'd probably not fare well setting up a booze-up in a brewery either.

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                    • alycidon
                      Full Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 459

                      After this morning’s offerings it should be renamed Essential Jazz! Don’t get me wrong, I quite enjoy jazz but not when it is mixed in with the classics. Just saying!
                      Money can't buy you happiness............but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery - Spike Milligan

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        Originally posted by alycidon View Post
                        After this morning’s offerings it should be renamed Essential Jazz! Don’t get me wrong, I quite enjoy jazz but not when it is mixed in with the classics. Just saying!

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                        • alycidon
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                          • Feb 2013
                          • 459

                          Thanks Bryn. I take your point - at least, I think that I do!
                          Money can't buy you happiness............but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery - Spike Milligan

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                          • oddoneout
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                            • Nov 2015
                            • 9184

                            Originally posted by alycidon View Post
                            After this morning’s offerings it should be renamed Essential Jazz! Don’t get me wrong, I quite enjoy jazz but not when it is mixed in with the classics. Just saying!
                            Afraid I will have to disagree somewhat with you there, and also ask why you take that view? Do you find that the juxtaposition jars?
                            I think that mixing in jazz is a good thing so long as not done to excess, and the morning schedule programmes are a good place to do it. There is after all a longstanding interest on the part of both 'classical' and jazz musicians in each others music, which I assume is the purpose of Bryn's post. As an uninformed music listener I am hard put to differentiate between the contemporary jazz I occasionally hear on R3 and the contemporary 'classical' music ditto, particularly where improvisation is involved, in terms of why they fall into different camps. The boundaries seem to me to be pretty fluid in many cases.

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                            • Ein Heldenleben
                              Full Member
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 6779

                              Originally posted by alycidon View Post
                              After this morning’s offerings it should be renamed Essential Jazz! Don’t get me wrong, I quite enjoy jazz but not when it is mixed in with the classics. Just saying!
                              I love Duke Ellington - I think he is one of the all time greats . His 30’s / 40’s band was probably the greatest assemblage of horn and wind virtuosi in history. But the BBC singers mangling of Sophisticated Lady exemplifies why classically trained singers need to be very careful when tackling Jazz. It might be summed up in the phrase “leave it to Ella ...”

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                              • cloughie
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 22119

                                Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                                Afraid I will have to disagree somewhat with you there, and also ask why you take that view? Do you find that the juxtaposition jars?
                                I think that mixing in jazz is a good thing so long as not done to excess, and the morning schedule programmes are a good place to do it. There is after all a longstanding interest on the part of both 'classical' and jazz musicians in each others music, which I assume is the purpose of Bryn's post. As an uninformed music listener I am hard put to differentiate between the contemporary jazz I occasionally hear on R3 and the contemporary 'classical' music ditto, particularly where improvisation is involved, in terms of why they fall into different camps. The boundaries seem to me to be pretty fluid in many cases.
                                You mean the ‘when does the tune start’ stuff! I’ll wager you are also very much into ‘minimalist’ and ‘rap’!

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