I just looked at today's schedule, how unappealing! Asking people how they would continue Schubert's Unfinished Symphony just looks like an invitation for cranks to be very cranky, certainly not something I want to listen to. Also, a novelist talking about politics and protest in Glasgow, and motorway service stations, might be interesting on R4, but what does it have to do with classical music?
Essential Classics - The Continuing Debate
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Originally posted by Stanfordian View PostA strange Guardian article in a way as I'm not sure the author S. Moss actually likes classical music from his tone. I find it hard to believe that so many R4 listeners should switch to R3 which is an entirely different type of programme.
Mr Moss has obviously grown tired of Composer of the Week, but he positively despises Essential Classics. Doesn't sound as if Our Ian has managed to work his magic on this tired bit of rag.
PS I've no idea whether they played the whole of Rhapsody in Blue - I saw they were playing it, I didn't hear it.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by Mal View PostI just looked at today's schedule, how unappealing! Asking people how they would continue Schubert's Unfinished Symphony just looks like an invitation for cranks to be very cranky, certainly not something I want to listen to. Also, a novelist talking about politics and protest in Glasgow, and motorway service stations, might be interesting on R4, but what does it have to do with classical music?
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Originally posted by french frank View PostYou won't be told, will you?
"Essential Classics, between 9am and noon, is dire: terrible, cliched little featurettes; mindless broadcasting of listeners’ emails and tweets; a predictable roster of music."
S. Moss, The Guardian.
I see they're playing Rhapsody in Blue just now (apparently the third time on R3 this month - all impeccably classical performances …).
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Originally posted by french frank View PostPS I've no idea whether they played the whole of Rhapsody in Blue - I saw they were playing it, I didn't hear it.
I'll have to switch over to the iPlayer playing selected programmes of worth - involving taking a mobile or tablet + Bluetooth speaker around with me me (if convenient) or - as above - silence.Last edited by Cockney Sparrow; 28-05-18, 11:36. Reason: Correction, Monday - hope I get in before I'm pulled up on that...
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If my bedside radio comes on with Today Prog I usually don't stay there long. Put off either by interviewer interrupting guest interlocutor or the arrival of Thought for the Day. I may well then go to R3 (ever optimistic) where I usually don't stay long. I will then go to Five Live or World Service or another classical music source.
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostDid they play both movements or leave the ‘Unfinished’ unfinished?Originally posted by peterthekeys View Post(more unfinished than usual, as only the first movement was broadcast)
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Needless to say, I wasn't listening. Even with Mr Skelly, R3 remains a no-go area between 6.30am and midday. On here have been a couple of "Early Music Late" programmes (merci infiniment, iPlayer...)
."...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by Cockney Sparrow View PostI switched off when the Rhapsody in Blue came on - silence was preferable.......(and remained so....).It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View Posta composer who devoted his/her life to the genre, with nine symphonies, 16 string quartets, 3 pianos concertos &c &c &c and who is never heard on R3?
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Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post"Playing Rhapsody in Blue". What all of it?
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostThis reinds me of the story (which was perhaps behind what you write here in any case) of Rossini late in life being recognised and then accosted while walking in Paris and being told that his William Tell was about to be revived there and replying "what? all of it?"...
'Despite the excisions, the length of the piece has been problematic, as later was Verdi's Don Carlo, another opera written for Paris and based on Schiller. Over time it became more common to perform only extracts of William Tell.
When Rossini was once told that they were performing act two at L'Opéra in Paris, he apparently replied, mock incredulously, "What? All of it?" '
Conductor Antonio Pappano enjoys the challenge of bringing William Tell, Rossini's last and longest opera, to the Proms. Just don't mention The Lone Ranger . . .
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostThis reinds me of the story (which was perhaps behind what you write here in any case) of Rossini late in life being recognised and then accosted while walking in Paris and being told that his William Tell was about to be revived there and replying "what? all of it?"...[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostI'm trying to figure out who this might be and displaying either my ignorance, my forgetfulness or both in admitting to such...
Well, it could have been eight symphonies, 23 string quartets, the single movement of a piano concerto, four viola sonatas and a 10' by 8' painting of the Egyptians Crossing the Red Sea … Plus a seven volume novel entitled Where Have The Years Gone? That sort of thingIt isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View Post... a 10' by 8' painting of the Egyptians Crossing the Red Sea …
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Originally posted by vinteuil View PostIt isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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