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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    Originally posted by LMcD View Post
    When inviting suggestions just now for a 'follow on' piece to Weber's 'Introduction to the Dance', Rob said 'there are no wrong answers'.
    This one is different - it's a work that's complete in itself, unlike movements ripped out of concertos, symphonies and suites.

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    • cloughie
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      • Dec 2011
      • 22114

      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      This one is different - it's a work that's complete in itself, unlike movements ripped out of concertos, symphonies and suites.
      Well it would be churlish for it not to be a dance - how about Danse Macabre dedicated to Suzi, or Valse Triste to match the state of R3 morning programmes?

      Where would Totentanz fit?

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      • Stanfordian
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        • Dec 2010
        • 9308

        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
        Well it would be churlish for it not to be a dance - how about Danse Macabre dedicated to Suzi, or Valse Triste to match the state of R3 morning programmes?

        Where would Totentanz fit?
        How about the music to Riverdance?
        Last edited by Stanfordian; 14-11-17, 16:54.

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        • oddoneout
          Full Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 9142

          Originally posted by LMcD View Post
          When inviting suggestions just now for a 'follow on' piece to Weber's 'Introduction to the Dance', Rob said 'there are no wrong answers'. Let's hope this encourages Suzy Klein to come up with something really witty and brilliant.....
          When this bit of nonsense started that phrase was used frequently and so must have been uttered by Miss Suzy. I suspect that certain recent actions by persons not a million miles from this august platform have given her cause to at least reconsider the wording.....
          It would be interesting to know what the people charged with administering this unpalatable offering really think - are there differences of opinion I wonder.
          Incidentally a new trend seems to be starting - playing a snippet of the 'follow on' piece as well as pleading for suggestions. So not only filleting a larger work to provide the day's sacrifice but then performing a biopsy on the fillet....

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30241

            Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
            not only filleting a larger work to provide the day's sacrifice but then performing a biopsy on the fillet....
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26523

              Well with the exception of Saturdays, Radio 3 has since the format re-jig been a complete no-go area here before noon. What on earth has the controller been playing at, after a reasonably hopeful start?

              Originally posted by zola View Post
              I saw that "Rob's guest" was Vladimir Jurowski. Jurowski spoke for three minutes about Pushkin and then they played Anna Netrebko singing the letter song from Eugene Onegin. I wondered what Jurowski's illuminating comments might be after it finished but no, that was it.
              I also noticed that VJ was scheduled and despite his interlocutor being 'the world's worst interviewer', poor miscast Rob Cowan, I was going to have a listen. Quite apart from the fact that the Onegin song is on my blacklist, what you say has saved me time, because now, like you,

              Originally posted by zola View Post
              I won't bother
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Serial_Apologist
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                • Dec 2010
                • 37589

                Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                When this bit of nonsense started that phrase was used frequently and so must have been uttered by Miss Suzy. I suspect that certain recent actions by persons not a million miles from this august platform have given her cause to at least reconsider the wording.....
                It would be interesting to know what the people charged with administering this unpalatable offering really think - are there differences of opinion I wonder.
                Incidentally a new trend seems to be starting - playing a snippet of the 'follow on' piece as well as pleading for suggestions. So not only filleting a larger work to provide the day's sacrifice but then performing a biopsy on the fillet....
                So long as they don't Fillet Mignon... should anyone else have a beef...

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                • gurnemanz
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7380

                  If they should play Saint-Saens' music for the Dying Swan (quite a likely Breakfast choice being both a famous chunk and quite short), I look forward to suggesting Wagner's Parsifal complete as a companion piece - it's "essential" for me - but would be prepared to compromise and just take the first Act where the swan-killing takes place.

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                    If they should play Saint-Saens' music for the Dying Swan (quite a likely Breakfast choice being both a famous chunk and quite short), I look forward to suggesting Wagner's Parsifal complete as a companion piece - it's "essential" for me - but would be prepared to compromise and just take the first Act where the swan-killing takes place.
                    What evidence have you that the Saint-Saens swan was dying? I thought it was Brahms's nemesis what did the Dying Swan tune.

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                    • Stanfordian
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 9308

                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      What evidence have you that the Saint-Saens swan was dying? I thought it was Brahms's nemesis what did the Dying Swan tune.
                      Maybe Wagner's Lohengrin which features a Swan. Some hope!
                      Last edited by Stanfordian; 15-11-17, 10:16.

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                      • cloughie
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                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22114

                        Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                        If they should play Saint-Saens' music for the Dying Swan (quite a likely Breakfast choice being both a famous chunk and quite short), I look forward to suggesting Wagner's Parsifal complete as a companion piece - it's "essential" for me - but would be prepared to compromise and just take the first Act where the swan-killing takes place.
                        Mahler 3 would be good to keep the presenters quiet for over half the 9 to 12 schedule - perhaps it would lead them a dance!

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                        • oddoneout
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                          • Nov 2015
                          • 9142

                          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                          So long as they don't Fillet Mignon... should anyone else have a beef...
                          Wellington?(flinging for the use of given the current frustrations)

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                          • pastoralguy
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7737

                            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                            What evidence have you that the Saint-Saens swan was dying? I thought it was Brahms's nemesis what did the Dying Swan tune.
                            As did Sibelius.

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                            • gurnemanz
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7380

                              I don't think Saint-Saens' swan was actually dying but they used his music for the famous ballet choreographed by Fokhine for Anna Pavlova. (thanks, Wiki)

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20570

                                Tomorrow's programme will request a companion piece for an aria from Handel's Julius Caesar, so presumably the right answer will become the wrong answer one again.

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