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  • Ferretfancy
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3487

    salymap
    I was at the Proms performance of the complete Ma Vlast, and I know it's heretical to say so, but Vltava and In Bohemia's Woods and Fields are by far the best things in the cycle. I'm sure it means a great deal if you are a Czech, but I did find it rather a long stand !

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    • barber olly

      Originally posted by salymap View Post
      Don't hold your breath. I think this year was the first Prom performance of Ma Vlast complete.
      And good it was too, I thought the engineers brought out the harps nicely. Meanwhile I can plunder the shelves!

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      • barber olly

        Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
        salymap
        I was at the Proms performance of the complete Ma Vlast, and I know it's heretical to say so, but Vltava and In Bohemia's Woods and Fields are by far the best things in the cycle. I'm sure it means a great deal if you are a Czech, but I did find it rather a long stand !
        Long stand sounds like the apprentice's first day at work! Certainly the big tunes are in 2 and 4, but those harps at the start of 1 are wonderful!

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        • salymap
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 5969

          Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
          salymap
          I was at the Proms performance of the complete Ma Vlast, and I know it's heretical to say so, but Vltava and In Bohemia's Woods and Fields are by far the best things in the cycle. I'm sure it means a great deal if you are a Czech, but I did find it rather a long stand !
          And they do quote each other quite a lot, Ferret. I still get some of the rarely played movementsmixed up when I play my CD of them.

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          • barber olly

            Originally posted by DracoM View Post
            It would be good to know from a Wogan fan how he/she felt when Wogan eventually left and the current incumbent moved in? Might give him/her an insight into how many R3 fans feel about what happened to their station that now between 6.30-noon some of us find frankly unlistenable to.
            The beginning of the end of R2 was not Wogan's replacement, but some time before that when the same replacement replaced Johnny Walker on the drivetime slot. The music, the atmosphere, Johnny's laid-back, relaxed, chatty style was replaced by a loud, really quite nasty style, clearly designed to ship out the older audience and bring in those whose teenage years were the eighties. Since then the whole style of R2 has changed R1.5., eg Jo Whiley given the 8.00 - 9.30pm slot, with little music from before 1980 played. But then look at the pop-scene. Boy bands 5 guys plodding around on stage, none playing instruments, no real part-singing. Compare this with the sixties where eg The Hollies would play all their instruments and put in decent three-part harmony as well.

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            • barber olly

              Here we go again. Mahler 8 BaL represented by a small chunk. ROGER IT IS A 3 HOUR PROGRAMME - give us the whole work!

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              • mercia
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 8920

                Originally posted by barber olly View Post
                Here we go again. Mahler 8 BaL represented by a small chunk.
                the guest is in residence 10:30am - 11:00am, leaving one hour, not enough time for the whole of Mahler 8 (you've probably worked that out for yourself)

                (what's it got to do with Roger?)

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                • Suffolkcoastal
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3290

                  Easy solution, get rid of the guest slot (which is probably Roger's fault ).

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                  • barber olly

                    Originally posted by mercia View Post
                    the guest is in residence 10:30am - 11:00am, leaving one hour, not enough time for the whole of Mahler 8 (you've probably worked that out for yourself)

                    (what's it got to do with Roger?)
                    Believe it or not Roger has a certain responsibility for running Radio 3! Thinking outside the box could put the guest spot earlier, or are the slots in the programme written on blocks of stone? Better still ditch the guest spot! What could be a great programme is a dog's late breakfast!
                    Last edited by Guest; 29-11-11, 08:39.

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                    • mercia
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 8920

                      Originally posted by barber olly View Post
                      are the slots in the programme written on blocks of stone?
                      I would think so

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                      • aeolium
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3992

                        What I found odd was that, although RC began playing the Mahler 8 just after 11, he played part one and not part two, which I think comes in at under an hour in Abbado's version.

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                        • Barbirollians
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11669

                          Originally posted by mercia View Post
                          I would think so
                          It would be no surprise as the target audience is probably the sort of people who have a panic attack if Countdown or Deal or No Deal is moved by five minutes on Channel 4

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37602

                            Originally posted by mercia View Post
                            I would think so
                            "Then I SMASH these tablets" - God, quoted from "Moses und Aron"

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                            • Osborn

                              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                              It would be no surprise as the target audience is probably the sort of people who have a panic attack if Countdown or Deal or No Deal is moved by five minutes on Channel 4
                              Sneering in your ivory tower?

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                              • mercia
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8920

                                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                                people who have a panic attack if Countdown or Deal or No Deal is moved by five minutes
                                yep, that's me

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