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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
    I agree with Rule 1. Rule 2 - guests should not be a feature of EC.
    - being neither "essential" nor "classics"!
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30250

      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
      I agree with Rule 1. Rule 2 - guests should not be a feature of EC.
      I was referring to Radio 3 in general, not Essential Classics. Sometimes guests on CotW make useful contributions because they don't get people like Russell Brand, Jo Brand, Mary Anne Hobbs or Richard Bacon to discuss Palestrina with DM.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • Nick Armstrong
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 26523

        Singers are odd creatures aren't they? Mark Padmore's contributions to the Bach recordings on COTW last week were so exemplary in their expressiveness and accuracy; but here he is at the moment doing Finzi's 'Dies Natalis' and the vibrato is all over the place, I wouldn't know which notes were being sung if I didn't know the piece (perhaps that makes it worse), really unpleasant. Bad day at the studio? His voice getting old?
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • cloughie
          Full Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 22115

          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
          Singers are odd creatures aren't they? Mark Padmore's contributions to the Bach recordings on COTW last week were so exemplary in their expressiveness and accuracy; but here he is at the moment doing Finzi's 'Dies Natalis' and the vibrato is all over the place, I wouldn't know which notes were being sung if I didn't know the piece (perhaps that makes it worse), really unpleasant. Bad day at the studio? His voice getting old?
          Cali
          I had just listened to Richter doing the Wanderer Fant and thinking great use of the guest spot with a substantial full work and enjoying some beautiful orchestral music when suddenly this awful tenor voice interrupted it. Almost like Pears on speed! Dreadful.

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          • Richard Tarleton

            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
            I had just listened to Richter doing the Wanderer Fant
            Cloughie I came in part way through that, on a poor quality (courtesy) car radio, and thought "who on earth is that banging their way through the Wanderer?" - not my favourite bit of Schubert at the best of times. Thinking of the Hoffnung pianists' hands in "Hoffnung's Acoustics", Richter's are definitely the pair of mallets wearing cuffs -

            Seven pairs of hands, varying in size and shape from slender filigree, pudgy baby-fingered, tentacular, rectangular, multidigitate, to simply a pair of mallets wearing cuffs, evoke the exact sound we would expect each player to produce.

            (from the official Hoffnung website. Can't find the actual image....)

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 20570

              Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
              (from the official Hoffnung website. Can't find the actual image....)
              It's on the front page.

              Gerard Hoffnung Official Website. Merchandise: Books, Bricklayer and Music Festivals CDs post free,

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              • cloughie
                Full Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 22115

                Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                Cloughie I came in part way through that, on a poor quality (courtesy) car radio, and thought "who on earth is that banging their way through the Wanderer?" - not my favourite bit of Schubert at the best of times. Thinking of the Hoffnung pianists' hands in "Hoffnung's Acoustics", Richter's are definitely the pair of mallets wearing cuffs -

                Seven pairs of hands, varying in size and shape from slender filigree, pudgy baby-fingered, tentacular, rectangular, multidigitate, to simply a pair of mallets wearing cuffs, evoke the exact sound we would expect each player to produce.

                (from the official Hoffnung website. Can't find the actual image....)
                OK Richard but what did you make of the tenor in the Finzi?

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                • Richard Tarleton

                  Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                  OK Richard but what did you make of the tenor in the Finzi?
                  Sorry to say I hit the off button again cloughie - not a Mark Padmore fan. As Cali says he's fine in Bach....

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                  • cloughie
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 22115

                    Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                    Sorry to say I hit the off button again cloughie - not a Mark Padmore fan. As Cali says he's fine in Bach....
                    Your button decision was a wise one!

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26523

                      Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                      not a Mark Padmore fan. As Cali says he's fine in Bach....
                      I wish he'd try singing Finzi like Bach (if it was a conscious decision on his part to give the Finzi that blowsy treatment, and not a very off day)
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • Barbirollians
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11669

                        He was excellent in that Handel disc with Lucy Crowe.

                        Meanwhile I heard five minutes of this terrible programme on Friday by chance and was greeted by an appalling quiz item in which we were asked to guess what a piece of music was played backwards- only someone as deaf as a post would not have been able to identify the Dies Irae from the Verdi Requiem

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20570

                          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post

                          Meanwhile I heard five minutes of this terrible programme on Friday by chance and was greeted by an appalling quiz item in which we were asked to guess what a piece of music was played backwards- only someone as deaf as a post would not have been able to identify the Dies Irae from the Verdi Requiem
                          Radio 3 is very sick at present.

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                          • Barbirollians
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11669

                            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                            Radio 3 is very sick at present.
                            I think it was Sarah Walker presenting and even she sounded embarrassed by the item - it was like something the ghastly Siobhan from W1A would have come up with

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                            • Stanfordian
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 9309

                              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                              He was excellent in that Handel disc with Lucy Crowe.

                              Meanwhile I heard five minutes of this terrible programme on Friday by chance and was greeted by an appalling quiz item in which we were asked to guess what a piece of music was played backwards- only someone as deaf as a post would not have been able to identify the Dies Irae from the Verdi Requiem
                              Hi Barbirollians,

                              Toe curlingly awful. So easy. It felt like one of thoese quizes on the tv or radio where a question is read out with a really obvious answer with the intention of getting people to ring in using premium rate calls.

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                              • MrGongGong
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 18357

                                They played this today

                                and as I drove back from getting 4 new tyres (£££ ) I discovered it by accident
                                can't we just have a couple of hours of music of this elk? (sic)

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