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  • kernelbogey
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    • Nov 2010
    • 5752

    #16
    Roger Wright, Controller BBC Radio 3, says: "As the BBC's home of classical music, I'm delighted[....]"

    Aha! Says a lot.....

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    • Frances_iom
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      • Mar 2007
      • 2413

      #17
      Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
      Roger Wright, Controller BBC Radio 3, says: "As the BBC's home of classical music, I'm delighted[....]"

      Aha! Says a lot.....
      I think he meant dogs' home - designed for the 'lighter listener' - does he think that such, brought up on at most 5min excerpts, can possibly cope with a full symphony ?

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      • Suffolkcoastal
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        • Nov 2010
        • 3290

        #18
        Broadcasts of complete symphonies have taken a bit of a nose dive under the current regime. There are not much more than 60 symphonies though in the standard repetoire it seems. The average classical music lover, unless they are prepared to explore via recordings, is missing out on the opportunity to hear many hundreds of fine symphonies. If the series explores some of the symphonic byways then it would be valuable, somehow I fear it will not.

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        • mercia
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          • Nov 2010
          • 8920

          #19
          the TV adverts have started for this series - kicking off (oops) next Thursday on BBC4

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          • ahinton
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            • Nov 2010
            • 16123

            #20
            Originally posted by Anna View Post
            Magor is a one-horse town. In SE Wales.
            I didn't know it had that many horses (but then I don't know if any of the symphonies in this series might risk frightening any of them, either, although I fear that I'd have good reason to doubt it); it does, however, have a services on the M4 on the way out towards Loegr...

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            • 3rd Viennese School

              #21
              Wots the difference betwixt a symphony in 4 mvts and a symphony in 1 mvt in 4 parts played without a break?

              There. That's a question.

              3VS (The third!)

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              • Serial_Apologist
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                • Dec 2010
                • 37703

                #22
                Originally posted by 3rd Viennese School View Post
                Wots the difference betwixt a symphony in 4 mvts and a symphony in 1 mvt in 4 parts played without a break?

                There. That's a question.

                3VS (The third!)
                Applause between the movements?

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                • teamsaint
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25210

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                  Broadcasts of complete symphonies have taken a bit of a nose dive under the current regime. There are not much more than 60 symphonies though in the standard repetoire it seems. The average classical music lover, unless they are prepared to explore via recordings, is missing out on the opportunity to hear many hundreds of fine symphonies. If the series explores some of the symphonic byways then it would be valuable, somehow I fear it will not.
                  no doubt you are correct. if so , its pretty sad.reminds me of the recent C20 violin concerto thread.
                  as a supposedly serious classical music station, its inexcuseable that so much stays unheard,
                  Would be great to put some positive pressure on for some interesting programming. There are plenty of hours in the day. After all, they found time for 40 complete Handel operas. Surely time for 1 C20 violin concerto every week for a year. Same thing for less heard C20 symphonies. and other things. I am sure some of the better informed on these boards could put together interesting schedules.
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • 3rd Viennese School

                    #24
                    I should have said "A symphony in 4 mvts played without a break and a symphony 1mvt in 4 parts played without a break"

                    Symphonys interest me more than other forms of music. But I think the highest form of art is not the symphony it is the Concerto for Orchestra!

                    3VS

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                    • Don Petter

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                      Broadcasts of complete symphonies have taken a bit of a nose dive under the current regime.
                      I seem to recall a time, was it really that long ago, when symphonies were regularly heard on R3, without any fuss. Does it really now require a 'major new series' to wheel them out for special examination, like some sort of rare breed? If they are heading for extinction, we know who is in no small part to blame.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30323

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
                        I seem to recall a time, was it really that long ago, when symphonies were regularly heard on R3, without any fuss. Does it really now require a 'major new series' to wheel them out for special examination, like some sort of rare breed? If they are heading for extinction, we know who is in no small part to blame.
                        We have it from the horse's mouth, don't we?

                        Mr Wright commented on Feedback that our attention span is much shorter. Clearly this major series is designed to present an encouraging, Radio 3-type challenge to listeners: how to listen to a complete symphony.
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • Don Petter

                          #27
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          We have it from the horse's mouth, don't we?

                          Mr Wright commented on Feedback that our attention span is much shorter. Clearly this major series is designed to present an encouraging, Radio 3-type challenge to listeners: how to listen to a complete symphony.
                          Your are in danger of sounding like a defender of R3 again!

                          Anything will atrophy if it's never exercised. Shouldn't R3 be exercising the attention span in its regular programmes, not just meekly accepting the symptoms and falling in line with everyone else? Then such 'specials', which are presented in a way which implies that the frightening symphony has an aura of inapproachability, would not be necessary.

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                          • Suffolkcoastal
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3290

                            #28
                            Just when you think it can't get any worse, I see that In (or should I say horribly out of) Tune will be promoting 'My Essential Symphony' with, you guessed it, more B!##$£ celebrities. Look RW I don't give a B!##%$ damn what a certain 'celebrity' thinks about a certain symphony, so drop this pathetic idea now and start putting money back into worthwhile programmes!!!

                            Looking at the essentail symphony programmes so far, there is reasonable mix of earlier symphonic composers, but once we get to the end of the classical period, the imagination dies and we're back with the same old composers and works again! They should have put me in charge of the series, at least I would have provided some variation and contrast. Is there anyone left at R3 with any imagination and knowledge???

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                            • teamsaint
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25210

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                              Just when you think it can't get any worse, I see that In (or should I say horribly out of) Tune will be promoting 'My Essential Symphony' with, you guessed it, more B!##$£ celebrities. Look RW I don't give a B!##%$ damn what a certain 'celebrity' thinks about a certain symphony, so drop this pathetic idea now and start putting money back into worthwhile programmes!!!

                              Looking at the essentail symphony programmes so far, there is reasonable mix of earlier symphonic composers, but once we get to the end of the classical period, the imagination dies and we're back with the same old composers and works again! They should have put me in charge of the series, at least I would have provided some variation and contrast. Is there anyone left at R3 with any imagination and knowledge???
                              I agree. They could at least let you have a week, or something.
                              i wouldn't mind a go.
                              Would probably be ok.
                              Yes, would be fine.might include a bit of folk though.
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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