3beebies aka Breakfast

[Bax-of-Delights]

Yup.

And listening to CB-H just for a short while one begins to notice the superfluous superlatives added to each piece of music: "marvellous", "brilliant", "wonderful" etc etc. I hadn't come across this announcer before but I see she does indeed have a pretty good musical pedigree. So why does she follow in the footsteps of the relatively unmusical KD in the use of such phrases as "kicking off the programme"?
And/or does it help to be
A) the daughter of a BBC announcer
and
B) photogenic?

[teamsaint]

in most jobs, the recruitment process looks at whether you are well suited to the job that is on offer, not lots of other jobs that are unrelated.

Oh, and there is life outside the upper middle classes .

[kernelbogey]

[...] So why does she follow in the footsteps of the relatively unmusical KD in the use of such phrases as "kicking off the programme"?[..]

Not wishing to make this personal, my thoughts have been about the crossover between radio and television broadcasts of music, RW's role and influence in these, and the need for photogenic presenters for the latter. I'm sure that it would be delightful to find myself sitting next to C B-H at a concert and to chat about the music in the interval and afterwards: I assume the broadcast style, easy for her as an actor to slip into, has been decided on as policy.

And - to be clear - I don't like it at all.

[french frank]

I was reading a piece on the BBC site about filling in CVs. It said that enclosing a photo was a no-no because employers wanted to avoid any suspicion that they were appointing people on their looks. R3 really goes in for glamour photography where their women presenters are concerned: sidways on in ball-gowns (Derham, Walker), the direct-gaze-lips-parted look (CBH), lip-gloss, tousled hair - and lots of bare leg in some versions (Skeaping), Goth-emo (Klein). Classic FM's Minhall need not apply.

Edit: Acknowledge kb's point about using them for TV progs too. I think they should have different presenters for television and radio, then it wouldn't matter whether the radio presenters were good-looking or not. They could concentrate on having the more knowledgeable people on R3.

[Bax-of-Delights]

The rumours are that KD is paid quarter of a million pounds p.a. - a sizeable salary for a very (thank heavens) occasional R3 announcer. I think you are correct in your assumption that it is the TV "pull" of such a figure that commands such a figure.
Although I would have thought that other figures such as RC, JS and AM might be ever so slightly narked at the financial kudos given to these characters.

[mercia]

Classic FM's Minhall need not apply.

nice cardy though

[Bax-of-Delights]

I was reading a piece on the BBC site about filling in CVs. It said that enclosing a photo was a no-no because employers wanted to avoid any suspicion that they were appointing people on their looks. R3 really goes in for glamour photography where their women presenters are concerned: sidways on in ball-gowns (Derham, Walker), the direct-gaze-lips-parted look (CBH), lip-gloss, tousled hair - and lots of bare leg in some versions (Skeaping), Goth-emo (Klein). Classic FM's Minhall need not apply.

You may have noticed that I posted on the R3 Facebook page a query concerning a series of Ao3 programmes "Postcards from Russia" which put up the glam mug shot of KD as an advert for the programmes which would indicate that the "presenter" was more imortant than the content. There came an answer:
The photo is automatically fed from its web page. It doesn't seem wrong to us to associate a programme with its presenter in certain circumstances. For example, the other day we had to illustrate a web page for an event that was so diffuse that it was a pragmatic solution to use a photo of the person who was anchoring the whole event, rather than a vague, generic image.
As another poster riposted: what was wrong with using the actual title of the programmes "Postcards from Russia" literally - a postcard of Moscow's Red Square, St.Petersburg etc etc.?

[french frank]

The rumours are that KD is paid quarter of a million pounds p.a.

I think she does quite a bit on R4 - for which (as an ex-newsreader) I imagine she is well qualified and very experienced. I think she's okay for the Proms on BBC Two as well - better than Clive Jenkins, her predecessor. She looks good, she's articulate and amiable. But using her as some kind of celebrity draw to attract listeners to R3 doesn't to me seem right. R3 doesn't need 'names', it needs knowledge. (And the glamour pics, btw, are presumably the BBC's idea not the presenters').

Edt: Unusual wording: 'It doesn't seem wrong to us'. Perhaps should be 'It seems wright to us ...'?

[mercia]

knowledge

does Rob Cowan come under the category of knowledgeable presenter?

[VodkaDilc]

Not wishing to make this personal, my thoughts have been about the crossover between radio and television broadcasts of music, RW's role and influence in these, and the need for photogenic presenters for the latter. I'm sure that it would be delightful to find myself sitting next to C B-H at a concert and to chat about the music in the interval and afterwards: I assume the broadcast style, easy for her as an actor to slip into, has been decided on as policy.

And - to be clear - I don't like it at all.

Is it an indication of how little I now listen to R3 that I need to ask what CB-H stands for? Is it one of the newer announcers?

[Bax-of-Delights]

Clive Jenkins? Not sure I ever saw the Union leader presenting the Proms - but, I ask myself, why not? I remember him as being pretty articulate.

Whereas Clive Anderson is not. Despite his legal training...

[Bax-of-Delights]

Clemency Burton-Hill - daughter of Humphrey Burton.

Not come across her before this weekend.

[VodkaDilc]

Clemency Burton-Hill - daughter of Humphrey Burton.

Not come across her before this weekend.

Thank you. The name is new to be. HB knew his stuff, though his manner tended to be a bit patronising to my mind.

[mercia]

would anyone be able to put a name to their ideal presenter (preferably living and available)?
I think I've got the message as to whom we don't like.

[Bax-of-Delights]

would anyone be able to put a name to their ideal presenter (preferably living and available)?
I think I've got the message as to whom we don't like.

Jonathan Swain comes pretty high up my list.
Christopher Cooke ditto.