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  • Suffolkcoastal
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3290

    Let's face it, is anyone in senior management any good at what they do anymore? Looking at the current mess in this country I think the answer in an emphatic NO!

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    • Carmen

      Originally posted by Anna View Post
      Any idea of when the Roger Wright Feedback programme will be on? And for those who have not as yet written, here is the link again http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/feedback/contact/
      Thanks for the link, Anna. I'll be firing off an "Apopletic of Clapham Junction" salvo later today.

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      • Panjandrum

        Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
        Let's face it, is anyone in senior management any good at what they do anymore? Looking at the current mess in this country I think the answer in an emphatic NO!
        the Peter Principle at work I'm afraid Sc.

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30284

          Originally posted by Colonel Danby View Post
          he is under enormous pressure from the BBC suits to up the ratings at any cost
          But why? It isn't as if it brings in any more money to the BBC. It just means a valuable public service is replaced by another popular radio station.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Osborn

            Originally posted by Colonel Danby View Post
            he is under enormous pressure from the BBC suits to up the ratings at any cost
            I really don't believe that. It was specifically noted in the BBC's R3 review that it's natural 'weight' is 2 million weekly listeners & has been for years. And that was considered to be on a par with other similar European stations. What he does have to do is keep hold of (& increase listening hours amongst) the 850,000 of his listeners who also enjoy CFM. Without them the station might survive but funding would be massively cut & something (quality of output?) would have to give.

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30284

              Originally posted by Osborn View Post
              I really don't believe that. It was specifically noted in the BBC's R3 review that it's natural 'weight' is 2 million weekly listeners & has been for years. And that was considered to be on a par with other similar European stations. What he does have to do is keep hold of (& increase listening hours amongst) the 850,000 of his listeners who also enjoy CFM. Without them the station might survive but funding would be massively cut & something (quality of output?) would have to give.
              All quite true.

              My feeling has been that a lot of the crossover audience to CFM is for the 'evening concert' or later night programmes when R3 isn't broadcasting classical music. Or even, maybe, when the speech programmes are on. I wouldn't have had those listeners down as the tweeting kind.

              All the talk, though, is of 'replenisher audiences'. But the whole population is an ageing one - so why worry? In any case, education is education: if they want to attract younger listeners, why this twinset and cardigan brigade?

              Yes, of course, new listeners are a good thing; and younger listeners. But couldn't the Ideas station come up with something more original than what the kids are doing?
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • tony yyy

                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                Yes, of course, new listeners are a good thing; and younger listeners. But couldn't the Ideas station come up with something more original than what the kids are doing?
                Young listeners? Are they going to be even slightly interested? It all sounds so ridiculously old fashioned to me. I have to agree with Brian Sewell:
                - more reminiscent of Franklin Engelmann on the Sunday afternoon show Down Your Way on the Home Service in 1947 than it was of Radio 3.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30284

                  Word is that RW's Feedback appearance will be in the programme on Friday 7 October. Probably recorded a day or two before.

                  Feedback,
                  PO Box No 67234,
                  London SE1P 4AX,

                  or ring: 03 333 444 544

                  or email feedback@bbc.co.uk


                  I'm told that from the last Feedback programme, there were more responses about Radio 3 than any of the others. The more the merrier.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Russ

                    For next week's denouement with RW, Feedback's playlet trailer ('Strife and Fate') about RW being interrogated was quite fun. (It's in the last 3 minutes of this week's programme.)

                    Russ

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30284

                      Originally posted by Russ View Post
                      For next week's denouement with RW, Feedback's playlet trailer ('Strife and Fate')
                      You forgot the subtitle: 'Strife and Fate - the Cornishman at Dawn' (now, who on earth is that ...?

                      I'm still not sure who they're going to be making fun of in this programme
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Russ

                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        You forgot the subtitle: 'Strife and Fate - the Cornishman at Dawn' (now, who on earth is that ...?
                        Dunno - I've tweeted Karen to see whether she knows.

                        Russ

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30284

                          Originally posted by Russ View Post
                          Dunno - I've tweeted Karen to see whether she knows.

                          Russ
                          Well, I presume, Mr Trelawny.

                          "Karen', is it?
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • kernelbogey
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5745

                            Originally posted by Russ View Post
                            For next week's denouement with RW, Feedback's playlet trailer ('Strife and Fate') about RW being interrogated was quite fun. (It's in the last 3 minutes of this week's programme.)
                            Yes quite fun:

                            worth a listen (from 26.00)
                            It sounds as though they've got a lorra feedback about R3.

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                            • Russ

                              I hope RW's interview won't be trimmed too much in Friday's programme, a large slice of which is now being taken up John Patten discussing DQF.

                              Russ

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30284

                                Originally posted by Russ View Post
                                I hope RW's interview won't be trimmed too much in Friday's programme, a large slice of which is now being taken up John Patten discussing DQF.

                                Russ
                                You mean Chris Patten? That sounds horribly like sabotage. With a bit of luck (!) he'll explain exactly why Radio 3 has to get more new listeners and become more welcoming and accessible - IOW help RW along.
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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