Awful, between tracks, sound torture & boredom

[oddoneout]

....snow shmow....tis proper texture in the landscape....crispy rather than crunchy...and still irritating eh...

....these interludes are sent in [often] by listeners....so out with your recorder and send in a recording of that annoying drip from a gutter onto gavanised dustbin lid....

We've had that - more than once I think...

[Quarky]

If listeners don't like it, or feel it's inappropriate for Breakfast, that's fair enough. But isn't it just an example of musique concrète, a whole genre of music...Luc Ferrari...... I guess I'm conditioned to listen to such sounds without reacting negatively.

[cloughie]

This morning’s ‘banjo frog’ with a contribution from Kermit was dreadful - seems Mr Handley was keen to mention the number of people who loved it - I wonder how many dislikers he chose not to mention.
When will R3 realise it is a good idea to give up on a bad idea?

[french frank]

This morning’s ‘banjo frog’ with a contribution from Kermit was dreadful - seems Mr Handley was keen to mention the number of people who loved it - I wonder how many dislikers he chose not to mention.

I always noticed that (in silence!) when I used to listen. Whenever something really grated, the presenter would mention that they'd had many emails/texts/tweets/very loud 'shout-outs' saying how very much they'd enjoyed it. "MORE PLEASE"

[oddoneout]

I always noticed that (in silence!) when I used to listen. Whenever something really grated, the presenter would mention that they'd had many emails/texts/tweets/very loud 'shout-outs' saying how very much they'd enjoyed it. "MORE PLEASE"

And how much(if any) of that is genuinely the presenter's choice I wonder? I know that the Playlist slot on EC will note when there has been a high demand for a particular follow-on, but it is often couched in "you will not be surprised to hear" terms, rather than defensively. When it happens in other circumstances, such as this morning's example, it too often sounds like a management requirement - "OK let's forestall the inevitable criticism by saying how many positive response there were". As has always been the case, statistics and the interpretation thereof are too often tools to be manipulated, rather than inform, so voices from the sidelines asking how many voiced the opposite opinion will not be presented. In my most cynical moments I tend to doubt they are even collected/recorded.

[kernelbogey]

I always noticed that (in silence!) when I used to listen. Whenever something really grated, the presenter would mention that they'd had many emails/texts/tweets/very loud 'shout-outs' saying how very much they'd enjoyed it. "MORE PLEASE"

There was a mention of a putative colonel somewhere in the home counties choking on his porridge... Well, not this one .

[oddoneout]

If listeners don't like it, or feel it's inappropriate for Breakfast, that's fair enough. But isn't it just an example of musique concrète, a whole genre of music...Luc Ferrari...... I guess I'm conditioned to listen to such sounds without reacting negatively.

More often than not I find the sounds reasonably interesting, and some have been music in their own right as you suggest - one of the dripping ones was "tuned" and rhythmic, rather good for clearing the headspace I found. It's not the sounds per se I question, it's their seemingly uncritical inclusion in the R3 box of parts for programme construction. Something that might have had interest for a while in a limited context quickly becomes just a gimmick when expanded outside those boundaries.

[Beresford]

I switched to radio 3 this morning around 8.15am to be greeted by an awful sound. Route marching in squelchy wellingtons on scratchy vinyl? Is this extreme modernism? ,... alluded to "everyday sounds". Imagine spending everyday with squelchy wellingtons . No excuse for playing this once, never mind several times between tracks. Why are radio 3 torturing us?... Then another boring choral piece, then my active speaker crashed (hurrah!)

Sounds like you had a Bad Hair day to me. The only choral piece I can see in the listings is William Byrd sung by the Sixteen, not at all boring. I actually found 90% of the musical items this Saturday morning interesting. Forget about the trails (everywhere now) and the indulgent homely comments. I suspect she is under orders to be as chatty as possible. The crunchy snow was quite fun, you can use it to chill out if you try hard (not whilst driving). Has anyone ever done the squeaky sound you get from walking on sand in Australia?

As for drips, have you ever noticed the systematic irregular rhythm you can get from a dripping old bulbous bathtap, when you are in the bath? It took mathematicians decades to work out the cause and structure of this dripping, and it's much more interesting than most waltz tunes. A friend who plays with CoMA developed a short piece of music from it.

I find Elizabeth Alker easier to listen to than she used to be, now she doesn't fade away the end of sentences, and her musical comments are quite good.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

And how much(if any) of that is genuinely the presenter's choice I wonder?

This is a valid point, but most of the current presenters knew all this before accepting the job, so they are complicit.

[Quarky]

Has anyone ever done the squeaky sound you get from walking on sand in Australia?

As for drips, have you ever noticed the systematic irregular rhythm you can get from a dripping old bulbous bathtap, when you are in the bath? It took mathematicians decades to work out the cause and structure of this dripping, and it's much more interesting than most waltz tunes. A friend who plays with CoMA developed a short piece of music from it.

I find Elizabeth Alker easier to listen to than she used to be, now she doesn't fade away the end of sentences, and her musical comments are quite good.

There we are ::unprocessed sound :: Walking On White Beach, Binalong Bay, Tasmania, Squeaky Sand

https://www.pond5.com/sound-effects/item/68349727-walking-white-beach-binalong-bay-tasmania-squeaky-sand-loop

Sounds like an aquatic bird chirping!

[Beresford]

Quarky: Just as I remember it.

[Mal]

...intrusive tendency to advertise TV programmes. The trails for the Six Nations rugby programming were annoying enough… but the worst was when some pleasant piece was followed by shouts of “ARMED POLICE, ARMED POLICE!!” in an advert for some TV cop show. How idiotic and cloth-eared can it get?

Was that the advert for "Gold?" It seems to be on all the time. I enjoyed the series, but, after it's been on iPlayer for a month, do they really need to keep on plugging it?

[EnemyoftheStoat]

Was that the advert for "Gold?" It seems to be on all the time. I enjoyed the series, but, after it's been on iPlayer for a month, do they really need to keep on plugging it?

I must admit I listen to so little R3 nowadays that I have to ask: why - if it is indeed the case - are they plugging TV programmes on the radio?

Do correct me if I have got the wrong end of the rattlesnake...

Equally though, the thing on TV where just as you were going to check various things on the credits, some announcer comes banging in, usually free of glo''l stops, and the screen is minimised so they can get the plug in... Bloody annoying.

[kernelbogey]

why - if it is indeed the case - are they plugging TV programmes on the radio?

Because the market for streaming services has become highly competitive; and the BBC is facing a funding shakeup.

(BTW I agree that such ads are intrusive.)

[EnemyoftheStoat]

Because the market for streaming services has become highly competitive; and the BBC is facing a funding shakeup.

(BTW I agree that such ads are intrusive.)

That is the answer of course, but it seems the BBC never consider the possible counter-productive aspects of this sort of plugging.