Skelly leaving Essential Classics

[cloughie]

I would, of course, be sad but not surprised if Skellers didn’t appear at 09:00 tomorrow ..... I feel he has broken the news in a way the suits, given their silence, aren’t happy with ..... we shall see ...... I am worried by Cockney Sparrow’s theory that my endless praise of the great man may have contributed to his fall from grace .......

Steady now!

[antongould]

Steady now!

I try to be .....

[french frank]

I’ve heard he brews an excellent pot of ‘Yorkshire Gold’.

Word is (unverified) that he will be moving to the afternoon slot - 'when it's available'. So will Tom McKinney move to EC?

[Serial_Apologist]

When I see the word "curated" used in relation to a musical event, an egg of a certain questionable condition springs to mind.

With me it was ham - until I remembered that ham, like Radio 3, needed curing.

[jayne lee wilson]

Why has the word curated taken over from selected ? Are we supposed to be impressed ? Why do cliches get so quickly embedded in our culture?

Among current definitions/usage this one from Cambridge Dictionaries....

"to select things such as documents, music, products, or internet content to be included as part of a list or collection, or on a website"....

Why do people here get so upset about it? Why should it not be used in this way?
Peer into the root of the word, you'll find it has a greater element of care implied in the selection and/or presentation process than "choice" "sequence" or "selection" itself....

"from Medieval Latin cūrātus, from cūrāre "to have spiritual charge of" " (Merriam-Webster); a curate was one "dedicated to caring for souls"....
Rather apt for artistic matters and "care-full" selections, one would think...

Language is organic, creative, historical, habitual...it never stops changing through usage....
Synonyms, the more the better, should be relished for their shades of meaning...especially when they go this deep.

[gurnemanz]

Agree with Jayne. Surely curate is not objectionable as a back-formation from curator. As the definition elucidates, a curator doesn't just select. It has connotations of coherent arrangement for a specific purpose, of displaying the chosen items with a view to effective communication to others and of bearing overall responsibility for the project. New words catch on if people find them useful and survive if they plug a gap. After a while the newness which some may find irksome wears off.

[DracoM]

Whether with or without his 'curation' / occupation of presenter seat or what, Skelly has been for a long, long time saddled with one of the least happy bits of programming on R3.

IMO, the prog is a mess, doesn't know what it's trying to do, and I.S. has been called on to behave like a clumsy, trying to be chummy, visiting vicar / DJ, a bundle of roles that fits him less well than almost any other presenter on R3. Whether I.S. is / has become reposnsible for that tone, or whether that is in the brief, it is certainly for me the effect.

[french frank]

I've now just located his announcement. Very strange - he said there was 'no plan to announce it formally'. No, there never is when they think audiences won't like it. Present them with a fait accompli. I remember Mark Russell saying that after he and Robert Sandall had been told that Mixing It was being dropped, a senior Radio 3 producer sat in on their programme to 'discourage' them from saying anything on air.

Jonathan Swain went from that same high profile time slot to Through the Night. Every now and again Radio 3 has a clear-out of it most competent presenters.

[oddoneout]

Whether with or without his 'curation' / occupation of presenter seat or what, Skelly has been for a long, long time saddled with one of the least happy bits of programming on R3.

IMO, the prog is a mess, doesn't know what it's trying to do, and I.S. has been called on to behave like a clumsy, trying to be chummy, visiting vicar / DJ, a bundle of roles that fits him less well than almost any other presenter on R3. Whether I.S. is / has become reposnsible for that tone, or whether that is in the brief, it is certainly for me the effect.

As someone who listens every day I think he does rather better than that. The question of whether the programme has any merit is another issue, but over the time he has been involved he has developed his take on the format which many of us enjoy and find far preferable to SK.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I am worried by Cockney Sparrow’s theory that my endless praise of the great man may have contributed to his fall from grace .......

I very much doubt that's the case.

[Ein Heldenleben]

Among current definitions/usage this one from Cambridge Dictionaries....

"to select things such as documents, music, products, or internet content to be included as part of a list or collection, or on a website"....

Why do people here get so upset about it? Why should it not be used in this way?
Peer into the root of the word, you'll find it has a greater element of care implied in the selection and/or presentation process than "choice" "sequence" or "selection" itself....

"from Medieval Latin cūrātus, from cūrāre "to have spiritual charge of" " (Merriam-Webster); a curate was one "dedicated to caring for souls"....
Rather apt for artistic matters and "care-full" selections, one would think...

Language is organic, creative, historical, habitual...it never stops changing through usage....
Synonyms, the more the better, should be relished for their shades of meaning...especially when they go this deep.

Because it sounds pretentious? There is the world of difference between putting together a major exhibition- the fruit of weeks of work (and years of acquired knowledge ) and the work involved in selecting a few pieces of music for a magazine programme . That can be done in a morning.

*the curator of the Brass Band selection says he has spent “days” on selecting 15 pieces - but obviously there’s a lot of archive to choose from . Still strikes me as basic music production rather than curation which implies some sort of theme or trying to establish a relationship between a widely disparate collection of objects ; or illustrating an artist’s development .

PS good to hear more Brass Band on R3 . Bring back Sounds of Brass !
!

[DracoM]

<< far preferable to SK.>>

Oh, yes, indubitably.

[french frank]

Because it sounds pretentious? There is the world of difference between putting together a major exhibition- the fruit of weeks of work (and years of acquired knowledge ) and the work involved in selecting a few pieces of music for a magazine programme . That can be done in a morning.

It's new vogue speak like animateur or dramaturg. Inventing a new profession

[Serial_Apologist]

It's new vogue speak like animateur or dramaturg. Inventing a new profession

Whenever I see the word "Gaffer" in closing film credits, I have to remind myself that he, or she, is not the one doing the taping.

[french frank]

Interesting: replacement not going to be another bloke, it seems. No, calm down, not her!