Originally posted by DracoM
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Skelly leaving Essential Classics
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It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostThat was what I was querying. I can't think what the answer would be. If someone had parents who were classical music/culture/arts enthusiasts and I'd been brought up to appreciate them, that would have made me 'privileged'. Or if a superior, expensive schooling had encouraged me to listen and appreciate them, that would have also made me privileged. But I didn't have either. I just started picking up bits here and there until I'd heard enough to make me want to find out more. Radio 3 took over my education.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostExplanations were given, but they seemed questionable to me:
1. " Essential Classics is a programme that is important but you could argue that Afternoons are more important as they have more serious musical content and unique value." But IS will only be one of four presenters. Essential Classics has a higher profile and a much larger audience.
2. " … in no sense are we downgrading Ian by moving him to help develop that slot." I'm afraid the idea of 'developing the slot' seems very ominous. It is one of the few programmes which has little presenter input. Why should a programme with 'more serious musical content' need to be 'developed' by a presenter?
3. On broadening the audience, he asks: "Is classical music, culture and ideas only for a privileged few?" which seems to make assumptions about Radio 3 listeners. In what way, relative to 'classical music, culture and ideas', am I 'privileged'? I may be a different kind of person with different interests, but how does that become 'privilege'?
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3. On broadening the audience, he asks: "Is classical music, culture and ideas only for a privileged few?"Originally posted by oddoneout View Post"No of course not - so why isn't it offered in greater quantity across more of the Beeb platforms to reach more people? Watching some of the old programmes that have been repeated on BBC4 just brings home how deficient the music offering in particular is these days. Heck, they don't even bother to televise the competitions properly anymore. Tinkering with the R3 schedules annoys and loses existing listeners and does nothing to make classical music reach a wider audience.
Broadening R3's audience isn't to offer 'classical music, culture and ideas' to a notionally 'less privileged' many. It's to increase ratings. FULL STOP.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostAn excellent point (made over and over again to BBC managers). It's the BBC that creates the impression - and makes it a reality - by limiting "programmes with more serious musical content" [defined here as the afternoon concerts as against Essential Classics] almost entirely to Radio 3 which few people listen to. And the BBC's solution? Limit it on Radio 3 too!
Broadening R3's audience isn't to offer 'classical music, culture and ideas' to a notionally 'less privileged' many. It's to increase ratings. FULL STOP.
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Originally posted by antongould View PostThe response you detail in #195 is IMVVHO just complete tosh dashed off with the requisite number of buzzwords in a matter of minutes ...... I cannot for the life of me see how sacking Skellers broadens R3’s audience ...... as has been said before it is just tinkering with something that is far from broken by managers “who have their reasons” - being, probably, to justify their very existence and inflated salaries .....bong ching
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Originally posted by antongould View PostThe response you detail in #195 is IMVVHO just complete tosh dashed off with the requisite number of buzzwords in a matter of minutes ...... I cannot for the life of me see how sacking Skellers broadens R3’s audience ...... as has been said before it is just tinkering with something that is far from broken by managers “who have their reasons” - being, probably, to justify their very existence and inflated salaries .....
BBC’s epitaph will be ‘Never apologised, never wrong’
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Originally posted by kernelbogey View PostI managed to listen to this, though driving, and he was very generous towards his listeners. 'It's been a blast,' he said.O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!
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Originally posted by kernelbogey View PostPerhaps the most human of R3 presenters.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostBiased I may be, but based on experience: there's something about BBC people that exudes the self-satisfaction of having 'arrived' at the gates and been allowed in, accepted into the group. Not Ian: he seems to have remained his own man.
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