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  • Frances_iom
    Full Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 2413

    #46
    its not really a concert more a dj'ing of a cd selection of pop classics - imagination nil safe listening to the non existent new audience 9 - no wonder the Irish master of the gab was involved - exactly the stuff broadcast on inTune - R3 can do better - even a repeat of a prom concert would be better.

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      #47
      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      I haven't listened to the evening concert for years. Has it become a selection of shorter pieces, just occasionally including an entire symphony or concerto? And mixes of chamber music and orchestral music? Or do we just cut them some slack during abnormal times?
      These days, the interval very often includes chamber works and other pieces not directly related to the main works in the concert.

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30323

        #48
        Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
        It’s generally a straightforward concert short piece often contemporary, concerto , symphony
        Well, symphonies and concertos:

        Darcey Bussell 0 (7 pieces in all)
        Kwamei Kwei Armah 1 (Dvořák 8 - 6 pieces)
        Joanna Lumley 1 (Mzt Piano Concerto 21 - 7 pieces)
        Rose Matafeo 0 (8 pieces)
        Janet Street-Porter 0 (6 pieces)

        That's a lot of 'concert' hours for one symphony and one concerto. My conclusion would be that they're taking advantage of the current circumstances to offer something different (not a standard concert) for a 'new audience'.
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30323

          #49
          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          These days, the interval very often includes chamber works and other pieces not directly related to the main works in the concert.
          I remember the protests voiced when they first started producing the 'musical intervals' - voices crying in the wildeness, then?
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • oddoneout
            Full Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 9218

            #50
            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            Well, symphonies and concertos:

            Darcey Bussell 0 (7 pieces in all)
            Kwamei Kwei Armah 1 (Dvořák 8 - 6 pieces)
            Joanna Lumley 1 (Mzt Piano Concerto 21 - 7 pieces)
            Rose Matafeo 0 (8 pieces)
            Janet Street-Porter 0 (6 pieces)

            That's a lot of 'concert' hours for one symphony and one concerto. My conclusion would be that they're taking advantage of the current circumstances to offer something different (not a standard concert) for a 'new audience'.
            Don't forget the talking.
            At least Janet S-P's selection stretches the timeline a bit more, from Baroque through to 21st century.

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              #51
              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              Well, symphonies and concertos:

              Darcey Bussell 0 (7 pieces in all)
              Kwamei Kwei Armah 1 (Dvořák 8 - 6 pieces)
              Joanna Lumley 1 (Mzt Piano Concerto 21 - 7 pieces)
              Rose Matafeo 0 (8 pieces)
              Janet Street-Porter 0 (6 pieces)

              That's a lot of 'concert' hours for one symphony and one concerto. My conclusion would be that they're taking advantage of the current circumstances to offer something different (not a standard concert) for a 'new audience'.
              What's so special about symphonies and concertos? Many 'normal' Radio 3 concerts have neither.

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26540

                #52
                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                Or even Gatti in a Bugatti!
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • kernelbogey
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 5753

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Edgy 2 View Post
                  Jeez, there'll soon be nothing left to listen to on Radio 3 at this rate
                  Still, with Sounds, you can always play one of the programmes you didn't want to hear through your wireless speaker while you are out shopping.

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                  • kernelbogey
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5753

                    #54
                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                    Or even Gatti in a Bugatti!
                    I think Norris in a Morris.

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                    • cloughie
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22128

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Roslynmuse View Post
                      Surely there are hundreds of concerts in the archives that would be worth repeating, including pieces that haven't been broadcast for decades, and that many listeners won't have in their CD collections or access to via streaming. What is wrong with coherent programmes rather than 'selections'? There's nothing here (apart from the 'celebrity presenter') to distinguish it from morning broadcasting. In fact, it looks more like a 'Full Works' programme from CFM than R3.
                      And what time is it to be broadcast - coincidence or design to compete for audience?

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                      • kernelbogey
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 5753

                        #56
                        I'll give Darcy Bussell's and Kwame Kwei-Armah's programmes a try as they're both artists who I would expect to say something interesting about the music, from their respective experiences of the stage. But the 'interviews' with the other three do not attact me.

                        In passing, why does Sean's photo appear on the website for Kwame Kwei-Armah's programme - when all the other celebs get their own picture? Ho hum .

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26540

                          #57
                          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                          Or even Gatti in a Bugatti!
                          The line between parody & reality is wafer-thin in 2021

                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • kernelbogey
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5753

                            #58
                            Is that an opera?

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                            • eighthobstruction
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6444

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                              The line between parody & reality is wafer-thin in 2021

                              Engaging Celibrity Encounter with a Giegercounter
                              bong ching

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                              • oddoneout
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 9218

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                                The line between parody & reality is wafer-thin in 2021

                                Well it's a tourist destination now, so there will be others to follow https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48943814
                                Mind you, Covid might not be the only slight problem, reading between the lines of "Current situation in Ukraine" on here https://www.chernobyl-tour.com/engli...n-ukraine.html

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