Celebrity Choice - the latest erosion?

[jayne lee wilson]

The following week: Conductor Choice. D'you think?

"Oh God No"...again...

You've reminded me of a feature on Katie Derham's Proms Extra in IIRC 2019, called - wait for it - "Maestro in a Maestro".....
Tom Service drove around London with his guest conductor captive in the passenger seat, choosing and talking and raving about their top tracks....

All I remember now is how very smart Tom's Maestro looked in its perfectly-preserved rattan-beige and black livery. A case of nice car, shame about the....(add appropriate expletives according to choice)...

Careful now. I'm one of Tom's greatest fans, remember .
But this feature went beyond appalled fascination, through the beggaring of description, well into "so-bad-its-good" territory...

[Nick Armstrong]

You've reminded me of a feature on Katie Derham's Proms Extra in IIRC 2019, called - wait for it - "Maestro in a Maestro".....
Tom Service drove around London with his guest conductor captive in the passenger seat, choosing and talking and raving about their top tracks....

Thank heavens that completely passed me by!

Ranks alongside the best of Alan Partridge’s programme ideas (Inner-City Sumo, Youth-Hostelling with Chris Eubank, Arm-wrestling with Chas & Dave, Monkey Tennis....)

[french frank]

beggaring of description, well into "so-bad-its-good" territory...

Haven't come across "so-bad-it's-good", just "so-awful-it-was-funny".

[jayne lee wilson]

Haven't come across "so-bad-it's-good", just "so-awful-it-was-funny".

A term mostly from The Life Cinematic....(you know me...)....

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/dec/05/one-star-wonders-how-to-make-a-film-thats-so-bad-its-good

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/25-movies-so-bad-theyre-unmissable/

[eighthobstruction]

Haven't come across "so-bad-it's-good", just "so-awful-it-was-funny".

...no i'm not surprised....

[eighthobstruction]

All I remember now is how very smart Tom's Maestro looked in its perfectly-preserved rattan-beige and black livery. A case of nice car, shame about the....(add appropriate expletives according to choice)...

....must wait for 2021 version Kiri in a Kia.....

[cloughie]

....must wait for 2012 version Kiri in a Kia.....

Or even Gatti in a Bugatti!

[Edgy 2]

It looks like there is another erosion into the Live Concert slot on Radio 3, and a further endorsement of Celebrity Culture.

https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/2021/celebrity-choice

Who is Matafeo?

Jeez, there'll soon be nothing left to listen to on Radio 3 at this rate

[Ein Heldenleben]

On a positive note do you think there’s the slightest change one of them might select something like the Horenstein / LSO Bruckner 8 from the Proms all those years ago?

[Bryn]

Rose Matafeo's selection:

Elgar: Cockaigne (in London Town), Op. 40
BBC Philharmonic
Andrew Davis, conductor

Ravel: Jeux d’eau
Zhang Zuo, piano

Debussy: La mer
BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra
Ilan Volkov, conductor

Delius: On hearing the first cuckoo in spring
BBC Concert Orchestra
Barry Wordsworth, conductor

Respighi: Pines of Rome (binaural recording)
BBC Philharmonic
John Storgards, conductor

Bernstein: Sonata for clarinet and piano
Annelien Van Wauwe, clarinet
Martin Klett, piano

Gershwin: An American in Paris
BBC Philharmonic
Yan Pascal Tortelier, conductor

Wagner: Tristan und Isolde – Prelude and Liebestod
BBC Philharmonic
Vassily Sinaisky, conductor

[Ein Heldenleben]

Thanks Bryn - as I suspected all BBC copyright performance -wise so the only real cost that of the interviewee - massively, massively cheaper than a live relay.

[Bryn]

Thanks Bryn - as I suspected all BBC copyright performance -wise so the only real cost that of the interviewee - massively, massively cheaper than a live relay.

And all pretty safe stuff. I was hoping for something a little more adventurous. Nothing to really complain about, though. Some Philip Dadson would have spiced up the mixture.

[french frank]

Nothing to really complain about, though.

I haven't listened to the evening concert for years. Has it become a selection of shorter pieces, just occasionally including an entire symphony or concerto? And mixes of chamber music and orchestral music? Or do we just cut them some slack during abnormal times?

[Ein Heldenleben]

I haven't listened to the evening concert for years. Has it become a selection of shorter pieces, just occasionally including an entire symphony or concerto? And mixes of chamber music and orchestral music? Or do we just cut them some slack during abnormal times?

It’s generally a straightforward concert short piece often contemporary, concerto , symphony . The interval is usually a pot pourri of related pieces . Tonight’s concert concluded with Brahms 1 but I bailed for the delights of Chailly Bruckner 5 and Walter Bruckner 8.
The loss of the live relay is very much to be regretted - often the best thing on all day but I suspect there simply isn’t enough live to relay any more...

[Roslynmuse]

Surely there are hundreds of concerts in the archives that would be worth repeating, including pieces that haven't been broadcast for decades, and that many listeners won't have in their CD collections or access to via streaming. What is wrong with coherent programmes rather than 'selections'? There's nothing here (apart from the 'celebrity presenter') to distinguish it from morning broadcasting. In fact, it looks more like a 'Full Works' programme from CFM than R3.