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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    #16
    Perhaps the BBC was getting withdrawal symptoms, having been unable to interview "special guests" during the intervals of televised Proms.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30316

      #17
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      Perhaps the BBC was getting withdrawal symptoms, having been unable to interview "special guests" during the intervals of televised Proms.
      Hilarious: they've been reading this forum. Look at my recent contribution re 'much-loved' in 'Words and phrases that set my teeth on edge' :

      'a series of five curated editions of Radio 3 In Concert where much-loved figures outside the professional classical music world'

      'BBC Radio 3’s much-loved presenter, veteran broadcaster Sean Rafferty'. They are so good to us, providing us with what we love so much!
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • gurnemanz
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7391

        #18
        Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
        Unlike a lot of people hereabouts, I like Sean Rafferty a lot. But I'm worried about him. For some time now he seems to have been afflicted with a terrible choking cough which is clearly audible when his guests are speaking on In Tune. I deduce from his Wiki entry that he must be in his early 70s. I admire his work ethic, but do wonder whether it's wise of him to have been traipsing into Broadcasting House on a regular basis throughout the winter.
        He's OK by me and I can't see the point of making fun of him because some BBC PR person decided to call him "much loved".

        The only time I've ever been to an awards ceremony was a Gramophone Awards evening at the Barbican. At the time they were doling out free tickets to subscribers. It was an enjoyable event with performances from some of the winners and Sean made a very genial host.

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        • Frances_iom
          Full Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 2413

          #19
          guess it had to come - the evening slot has been left alone for too long and as everyone knows management can't resist tinkering with a successful formula (I think they call it improving) - but what a load of yesterday's "celebs" apart from what appears to be a totally unknown kiwi - can they actually get through an evening ?

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          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22128

            #20
            Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
            This is what Rose Mateo is most famous for......
            Rose Matafeo performs her stand-up special Horndog in London’s West End.


            So there's her overextended 15 Minutes...But I don't really do comedy. Or noise. So.....


            Street-Porter and Lumley? Oh God No, let me outta here......

            Celebrities are bad enough, but overused, overexposed outdated celebrities...
            Jayne - isn’t that a bit ageist?

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            • Ein Heldenleben
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              • Apr 2014
              • 6797

              #21
              Radio Three going down the sleb route does have the undoubted side benefit of freeing up time for the many Bruckner 6 recommendations on the BAL Thread .

              Now on Dausgaard - terrific , rhythmic. Why can’t he “curate”?
              Either get a real sleb or some one who knows what they are talking about ....

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37702

                #22
                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                And then fetch up on Radio 3? But as I say, as to individuals, tastes differ. It's the managerial, strategic principles that are so stale and misbegotten.
                Yes but just imagine if the management principles were articulate, consistent and well-thought out. How would a bunch of probably semi-informed celebrities turned presenters find the creative freedom necessary to be judged well-loved?

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30316

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Frances_iom View Post
                  (I think they call it improving)
                  No, they don't. They call it 'refreshing' the schedule. Same programme, but … refreshed for today's audience.

                  However, I missed - because I don't really follow what Radio 3 does now - yesterday's Sunday Feature. I just listened to the first five or so minutes, but in view of my constant carping, fairness suggests I should listen to the whole programme: Errolynn Wallen talking about the 'British' (Commonwealth) contribution to 'British classical music'. That, to my way of thinking, is exactly "Radio 3", and using a 'celebrity' in the proper way.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
                    Full Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 6797

                    #24
                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    No, they don't. They call it 'refreshing' the schedule. Same programme, but … refreshed for today's audience.

                    However, I missed - because I don't really follow what Radio 3 does now - yesterday's Sunday Feature. I just listened to the first five or so minutes, but in view of my constant carping, fairness suggests I should listen to the whole programme: Errolynn Wallen talking about the 'British' (Commonwealth) contribution to 'British classical music'. That, to my way of thinking, is exactly "Radio 3", and using a 'celebrity' in the proper way.
                    I’m glad you mentioned this feature . The interview with Zubin Mehta , a genuine celebrity and talent , was absolutely fascinating. So much so it required quite a lot of concentration to keep the second half of this Xmas’s Turkey meal (lockdown forced a partial freeze ) on track . Seriously though exactly what Radio Three should be doing...

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                    • jayne lee wilson
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 10711

                      #25
                      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                      Jayne - isn’t that a bit ageist?
                      Oh no, there are plenty of weary celebrities, overkilled well under 30...or maybe its 40 or...it can be hard to tell.....
                      Depends what they've, y'know, had done...
                      Darcey's been all over the place, from Vicar of Dibley to Wild Scottish Coasts.... in danger of assuming the Lumley mantle (or halo) as a national treasure...
                      ("And she's still only 51!" Etc.)

                      Youtube influencers are burnt out before 20 now...

                      Celebrity Choice with Conductors!
                      Gosh, why didn't they think of that...
                      Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 23-02-21, 16:33.

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22128

                        #26
                        At least Darcey should know a bit of Classical stuff even if its only from the ballet pit!

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30316

                          #27
                          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                          Celebrity Choice with Conductors!
                          Gosh, why didn't they think of that...
                          The following week: Conductor Choice. D'you think?
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • Frances_iom
                            Full Member
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 2413

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                            I’m glad you mentioned this feature ...
                            This slot can throw up several really interesting programs along with the usual flock of turkeys; last Sundays covered rather too much ground and would I suspect have been better spread out maybe over 2 programs or developed into a small series of say 15/30min items but definitely worth listening to at leisure.

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                            • oddoneout
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 9208

                              #29
                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              The following week: Conductor Choice. D'you think?
                              Haven't they all become drivers now?
                              Oh you mean music ones. Hmm, Conductor Choice - who gets to choose which conductor? I know, it could be a new audience participation game, line up some conductors, let each do a quick demo then listeners can vote for their favourite to 'go forward'. Jeopardy sections each week - conduct something you aren't familiar with - musical, ballet, brass band, backing group. Oh, so many possibilities...

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26540

                                #30
                                Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                                Street-Porter and Lumley? Oh God No, let me outta here......
                                Celebrities are bad enough, but overused, overexposed outdated celebrities...
                                Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                                And
                                BBC Radio 3’s much-loved presenter, veteran broadcaster Sean Rafferty introduces the selections
                                Oh God, I didn’t make it to the radio in time to avoid the trailer just now... Then realised what this thread was about

                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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