Originally posted by Heldenleben
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Tearjerker, Downtown Symphony, Piano Flow, Happy Harmonies and other Saturday padding
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Another Saturday Through the Night ruined by drivel - when will it end?
Here's what we missed:
05:01 Francois Couperin; Bruit de Guerre; Hungarian Brass Ensemble
05:04 Aaron Copland, Timothy Kain; Hoe Down - from "Rodeo" arr. for 4 guitars; Guitar Trek
05:08 Gioachino Rossini; Overture from La Gazza Ladra (The Thieving Magpie); Netherlands Radio Symphony Orchestra, Kenneth Montgomery (conductor)
05:19 Niccolo Paganini; Moses fantaisie (after Rossini) arr. unknown for double bass and piano; Gary Karr (double bass), Harmon Lewis (piano)
05:27 Erik Satie; Parade; Pianoduo Kolacny (piano duo)
05:40 Jean Coulthard; Michael Conway Baker (orchestrator); Four Irish Songs; Linda Maguire (soprano), CBC Vancouver Orchestra, Mario Bernardi (conductor)
05:50 Carl Nielsen; Serenata in vano, FS 68 (for clarinet, horn, bassoon, cello & d.bass); Festival Ensemble of the Festival of the Sound, James Campbell (conductor)
05:57 Antonio Vivaldi; Flute Concerto in G minor, RV 439 ('La notte'); Zug Chamber Soloists
06:08 Miklos Kocsar; Scale, tear! (Halog, hasadj meg!) - folk prayers; Hungarian Radio Choir, Peter Erdei (conductor)
06:14 Joseph Haydn; String Quartet in A major, Op 55 no 1; Meta4
06:31 Edward Elgar; Variations on an original theme (Enigma) Op 36; New Zealand Symphony Orchestra, Neville Marriner (conductor)
Info from https://www.ebu.ch/files/live/sites/...May%202021.pdf
Available to (re)listen to via more enlightened European broadcasters, e.g. on Swedish radio https://sverigesradio.se/avsnitt/1699180
The Couperin had a rather abrupt transition in to the Copland, but I rather enjoyed it along with the Haydn & Nielsen.
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostI hope each week when you put these ‘missing’ lists you email a copy to the BBC philistine suits who have imposed these regular Saturday morning incursions.
Originally posted by french frank View PostYes, he mentioned Lord Reith in his reply to me. [ "'Reach – increase it' – why not? It’s what Lord Reith wanted."] I think I could have written his script. As an ex-civil servant, he knows what to say to fob people off so that they finally give up. There's a certain brutality to these BBC responses: ordinary, reasonable people don't quite master the technique of landing the knock-out punches.
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My toe-in-water dips into these programmes suggests that they promote the notion - or rather pander to it - that music is for use as a background, or to manipulate one's mood. I don't object to anyone using music that way if they want to, but - and here's the thing - there is no need for Radio Three to be promoting this already widely-held notion. What will attract some - of course not all - potential Radio Three future listeners is gentle, informative education as to why there is more to a Mozart symphony, a Beethoven string quartet, a Verdi opera than mood music, or the passing plangency of a pop song about lost love.
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Originally posted by AuntDaisy View PostI suppose so, although not sure I have the energy these days.
Would an en masse FoR3 e-mail campaign would cut any more ice?Best regards,
Jonathan
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Originally posted by AuntDaisy View PostI suppose so, although not sure I have the energy these days.
Would an en masse FoR3 e-mail campaign would cut any more ice?
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Originally posted by LMcD View PostI doubt it - remember, Auntie Knows Best! I still haven't had the response I was promised when I filled in the complaint form relating to coverage of Prince Philip's death.
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Originally posted by oddoneout View PostDidn't they eventually decide not to respond, just record numbers - which did little to defuse the situation from the complainers' point of view but saved the Beeb a lot of work.
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Originally posted by Jonathan View PostNo idea but it's worth a go! There is a group on FaceBook called "Rescue Radio 3" - they are a lot more shall we say...forward in their criticism than we are here. Maybe if we could all unite and all send emails, someone might actually pay attention?
There are about 100+ forum members who are regularly posting here just at the moment, so if they all signed a letter that would be 100 names … for what that would be worth. I think the problem is that they have very carefully considered the effect that their changes are likely to have on the existing/longstanding audience and they don't care. So writing in and complaining is what they expect, and ignore. It might have an irritation value, thoughIt isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View Post"Rescue Radio 3" is a Facebook talkshop. They don't actually do anything and their criticicism is of the kind which the BBC/R3 routinely ignores.
There are about 100+ forum members who are regularly posting here just at the moment, so if they all signed a letter that would be 100 names … for what that would be worth. I think the problem is that they have very carefully considered the effect that their changes are likely to have on the existing/longstanding audience and they don't care. So writing in and complaining is what they expect, and ignore. It might have an irritation value, though
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Originally posted by french frank View Post"Rescue Radio 3" is a Facebook talkshop. They don't actually do anything and their criticicism is of the kind which the BBC/R3 routinely ignores.
There are about 100+ forum members who are regularly posting here just at the moment, so if they all signed a letter that would be 100 names … for what that would be worth. I think the problem is that they have very carefully considered the effect that their changes are likely to have on the existing/longstanding audience and they don't care. So writing in and complaining is what they expect, and ignore. It might have an irritation value, though
BBC drama is also undergoing upheaval / decay and a recent Facebook post by Caroline Raphael & interview / comments by Gillian Reynolds drew some attention, but no positive changes.
How about posters on the side of buses with:
BBC R3 - Less Classical than Classic FM *
BBC R3 & R4 - Worse than it was
BBC R3 - Turn off Grandad
BBC R4 & R3 - We won't make a Drama...
* copyright French Frank & arguably true due to the increasing non-classical drivel dilution.
Something like this humorous mock-up (no breaches of copyright intended):
Last edited by AuntDaisy; 08-05-21, 15:10.
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Originally posted by kernelbogey View PostThere was a very effective campaign a few years back to keep Radio 4 longwave transmission. I would hope that a properly organised campaign re Radio Three might have an effect.
The difference there was that the consequence was unintended. In this case the consequence is predictable, but merely collateral damage in pursuit of a higher goal But after organising a campaign unsuccessfully for 20 years, I'd be very happy if someone else thought they could do a more effective job.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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