Tearjerker, Downtown Symphony, Piano Flow, Happy Harmonies and other Saturday padding

[Ein Heldenleben]

Designed to turn off the kind of listener they don't want and not bother the kind of listener they do want.

I have heard that TTN is favourite listening for some overnight lorry drivers. Just wait until they start complaining!

I think they might like it. At the heyday of Simon Bates’s Our Tune tough lorry drivers could be seen sobbing in lay-bys all over the UK at 11.00 ...


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[french frank]

I think they might like it. At the heyday of Simon Bates’s Our Tune tough lorry drivers could be seen sobbing in lay-bys all over the UK at 11.00 ...


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I can picture it now. They're clearly the intended audience.

[oddoneout]

I reckon if they’d called it Daybreak we wouldn’t even have noticed...but Tearjerker ye Gods....

I'm struggling not to descend into despondency at what living through 2021 is likely to involve, so the last thing I'd want to do is inflict further misery on myself listening to something designed to poke my negative emotions, which is what "Tearjerker" conjures up.

[Ein Heldenleben]

Wiki is sort of helpful abut EBU
although its references to members and membership are confusing - I think there are two levels(member and associate) depending on whether in EU/European area or not.
This is relevant but again may be a not altogether accurate description of the situation?

There’s a lot of information on the EBU’s website. The Head of Radio is Graham Dixon who used to work at R3 ...
Nottorno is a rights-free , no commercial CD pooled service . So the only above the line cost is the leccy....
Idly Googling I see the per minute fees (performing rights and PPL ) for Radio 2 were pushing £100 in 2016...

[Bryn]

There’s a lot of information on the EBU’s website. The Head of Radio is Graham Dixon who used to work at R3 ...
Nottorno is a rights-free , no commercial CD pooled service . So the only above the line cost is the leccy....

That said, some of the recordings played on TtN/ECN are also available on commercial CDs. Most of the RCO performances, for a start.

[cloughie]

I can picture it now. They're clearly the intended audience.

Quite diverted from their Yorkie bars!

[Ein Heldenleben]

That said, some of the recordings played on TtN/ECN are also available on commercial CDs. Most of the RCO performances, for a start.

Interesting- it def says no commercial cd’s on the nottorno website . I guess the CDs might be rights cleared as well - I just don’t know enough about music copyright . It’s a specialist area - got to keep those lawyers employed somehow..

[jayne lee wilson]

These sound interesting - could you kindly provide more details? (This is a genuine enquiry from your resident musical ignoramus! )

The adagios from the Saint-Saens' 3rd Symphony, and the Brahms D Minor Piano Concerto, which tend to turn up fairly frequently. Khachaturian's Adagio of Spartacus and Phyrgia comes around and around too; slays me every time. I have to stop chopping the salad in case, blinded by hot tears, I cut my finger; or the knife skids off the board, narrowly missing a Cat.......I often feel compelled to air-conduct that one...

Last night Myleene gave us - wait for it - the andante from the Raff Symphony No.4....(only telling us afterward, of course...lovely piece, never knew it)...

So there's some innovative programming for you...and the serendipity I crave....

[kernelbogey]

I'm not sure that I was making a point as such; I was really pointing out the mechanics of what was being done. Normally the EBU programme starts at midnight continental time; by comparing the Notturno and R3 TTN listings it seems that R3 taps into the already playing stream at 00:30 (weekdays) / 01:00 (weekends), adding its own announcements. When the EBU stream reaches the end at 05:00 UK time the R3 output continues with what had been the first hour and a half (weekdays) or two hours (weekends) of the EBU broadcast. Therefore to broadcast the new Saturday morning programme(s) the return to the beginning is missed out.

Thank you for clarifying, Andrew.

[kernelbogey]

The puzzle over this Tearjerker is - why?

My hunch is it might be based on the opinion that there is a lot of unexpressed grief 'out there': 'let's help them out'....

[french frank]

That said, some of the recordings played on TtN/ECN are also available on commercial CDs. Most of the RCO performances, for a start.

That surprises me. They are claimed to be the broadcasters own recordings from live (broadcast) performances.

[Cockney Sparrow]

That surprises me. They are claimed to be the broadcasters own recordings from live (broadcast) performances.

One of the benefits of orchestras operating their own recording label maybe.

Their label in Bryn's example) is "RCO Live" - it looks like no other rights holder is involved, so they can offer recordings to the EBU service and, if they choose, issue it as a CD. Might be the same recording from the source master file, but the TTN programme isn't actually playing the CD iteration.

[french frank]

Might be the same recording from the source master file, but the TTN programme isn't actually playing the CD iteration.

That makes sense.

[jayne lee wilson]

I think they might like it. At the heyday of Simon Bates’s Our Tune tough lorry drivers could be seen sobbing in lay-bys all over the UK at 11.00 ...


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Does this include female lorry drivers? What makes lorry drivers "tough" anyway? And why should crying seem noteworthy among them?

[Ein Heldenleben]

Does this include female lorry drivers? What makes lorry drivers "tough" anyway? And why should crying seem noteworthy among them?

I think it was an urban myth to be honest ..but Our Tune did have a huge audience - 11 million at its height.