New season on Radio 3 to include two new classical music programmes

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  • Norfolk Born

    I'm looking forward to 'The World's Greatest Chunks of Classical Music - The Utlimate Remix Collection (Vol. 8)' (with a no-repeat between 0800 and 1800' guarantee).

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    • french frank
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      • Feb 2007
      • 30302

      Originally posted by rank_and_file View Post
      We seem to have no idea what sort of guests will appear, nor for how long, and what their musical tastes will be.

      However, I feel some trepidation that this is an excuse for guests involved in popular singing, crossover, jazz, theatre and shows, film music and so on.
      Well, the commissioning brief prepared by the BBC for independent tender said: "There is an opportunity for each programme to include one guest – either to add a request element to the show, or a piece with some personal, biographical or topical significance."

      I don't know which indie landed the contract.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • doversoul1
        Ex Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 7132

        Discovering Music has disappeared from R3’s Programme section. Does this mean something?

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        • french frank
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          • Feb 2007
          • 30302

          Originally posted by doversoul View Post
          Discovering Music has disappeared from R3’s Programme section. Does this mean something?
          Oh, rats! The new schedule has certainly displaced it from the 5pm slot and that's what I mentioned a few days ago. I asked on the R3 blog but - as usual - there was no response from anyone.

          Will investigate.

          Hang on, though - there's no Drama on 3 either ... No Ds
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • french frank
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            • Feb 2007
            • 30302

            Could be that both are sort of in abeyance while the Proms are on ... I hope

            It doesn't list Music Matters either, but the programme page says it returns for a new series on 17 September.

            The Verb isn't listed either - no programmes 'coming up'.

            I think this is to do with Proms Season.
            Last edited by french frank; 06-08-11, 20:50.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • zola
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              • May 2011
              • 656

              Originally posted by doversoul View Post
              Discovering Music has disappeared from R3’s Programme section. Does this mean something?
              Since the schedule pages have been showing 2010 listings for weeks, I don't think anything on the R3 website can be taken with much more than a pinch of salt.

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              • french frank
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                • Feb 2007
                • 30302

                Let's guess that the Programmes A-Z page is computer-controlled and automatically updates with the new week's programme details, iPlayer links - every listed programme has an LA link. No LA link, no listing ... clever stuff!
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • zola
                  Full Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 656

                  Sadly, looking at the post Proms listings for the remainder of September in BBC Music magazine, it appears that Discovering Music has got the chop. The only casualty apart from the rebranding of Classical Collection. EMS and D on 3 survive, as do the Essay and Night Waves. The first four editions of Saturday Classics are described as a "mini-series", where Gareth Malone will be returning to his own childhood ( sic ), learning what composers were like when they were young and exploring the music written for and inspired by children. I wonder what the listening figures for that are likely to be ?

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                  • french frank
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                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30302

                    Originally posted by zola View Post
                    Sadly, looking at the post Proms listings for the remainder of September in BBC Music magazine, it appears that Discovering Music has got the chop.
                    It was my fear but I couldn't believe that the only mainstream classical programme left with any claim to be considered an intellectual challenge would be axed. I asked someone last Friday if he could find out . I really couldn't/can't believe it.

                    The Gareth Malone programme sounds rather like a higher class (higher than Making Tracks) children's programme i.e. not without interest for adults too. Again, a popular, popularising TV personality, albeit one with good musical credentials.

                    Back in 2002, Ariel (BBC in-house maga) reported on the round of forthcoming schedule changes: 'A Shared Passion is the result of a year of consultationto discover what the audience wanted, says controller, Roger Wright. ‘We wanted to build on what works, and get rid of what didn’t serve the audience.’

                    What didn't serve the audience? Choirworks (though The Choir does), Listeners’ Choice (though 3 for All with Brian Kay did, but doesn't any more, nor does its successor Radio 3 Requests), Morning Performance (though CD Masters did, but doesn't any more, nor does its successor Classical Collection), BBC Legends, Wigmore weekend repeat (though now it does again).

                    What a shambles!
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • salymap
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 5969

                      There is nothing under D on the list of programmes. Does that mean that the 'Discovering Music Archive' has gone too? I have referred back to that for several years, either to hear the review or listen to the complete work only. Why should we lose that?

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                      • Frances_iom
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                        • Mar 2007
                        • 2413

                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        ...

                        What a shambles!
                        now you understand what RW meant by saying that R3 was not a University - I guess when in the future access to the achives ia allowed we will see that all this consultation is a sham (maybe Chris Patten will take a different view of how open the BBC should be) - RW's watch can be characterised by so many U turns which may account for the total confusion as to which direction the channel is heading - possibly he is responding to budget cuts.

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                        • french frank
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                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30302

                          Originally posted by salymap View Post
                          There is nothing under D on the list of programmes. Does that mean that the 'Discovering Music Archive' has gone too? I have referred back to that for several years, either to hear the review or listen to the complete work only. Why should we lose that?
                          Someone mentioned this a short time ago - that the archive seemed to have disappeared. I think I did manage to locate it eventually, but checking the DM site (bookmark it while you can) I can only immediately find the video clips.

                          Anyone remember where the archive is? I doubt it will be scrapped.
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • mercia
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 8920

                            ?

                            Radio 3's discovering music archive of listening notes for teachers and students


                            Programme which examines a different piece of music each week


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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30302

                              Originally posted by mercia View Post
                              Hmmmm. 26 sets of listening notes. The available 'archive' seems to be a mix of BaL, CotW and DM. Click to find out which (Zelenka turned out to be a Donald Macleod podcast). Plus the ubiquitous Wikipedia link to biographies.

                              I remember that the Audience Council submission to the Trust review contained references to consulting with audiences who didn't regularly listen to R3 and to whom classical music didn't necessarily appeal. They listened to 'selected' programmes (which programmes? selected by whom?) and gave their reaction.

                              Did they listen to Discovering Music? Did they declare that it was intimidating and stuffy? Is this where the strategy comes from - aiming to please the general licence fee payer rather than people who are devoted to classical music? The Gareth Malone series (and whatever follows it) is the direct replacement for Discovering Music, by the time all the various changes have been shifted around.
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • salymap
                                Late member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 5969

                                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                                Someone mentioned this a short time ago - that the archive seemed to have disappeared. I think I did manage to locate it eventually, but checking the DM site (bookmark it while you can) I can only immediately find the video clips.

                                Anyone remember where the archive is? I doubt it will be scrapped.
                                Thanks ff, done that.

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