Afternoon on 3, standard of introductions

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  • Master Jacques
    Full Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1865

    Afternoon on 3, standard of introductions

    I have to say that Tom McKinney's chummy, introductory words to the performance of Ravel's Bolero just now - whoever wrote them - set for me a new bar for low-brow, sneering populism.

    To suggest (1) that respectable medical research shows that the piece is the product of mental illness, and (2) that it simply "repeats a tune 17 times" (ignoring the fact that the interest of the piece lies mainly in its wonderful orchestration and harmonic daring) is the height of crass inanity.

    R3 has a duty to educate as well as entertain. This insultingly stupid introduction did neither, and made this listener for one despair at the increasingly poor quality of "programme notes" on the channel.

    They might as well hand the franchise over to the Daily Mail and have done with it.
  • Cockney Sparrow
    Full Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 2280

    #2
    Do you think a thread named "New low points in post midday programme presentation on R3" would be useful? (Or perhaps this thread could be renamed).

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    • oddoneout
      Full Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 9135

      #3
      Is the morning malaise spreading?

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20568

        #4
        Repeats the same melody 17 times? What a numpty. Clearly unfit to be on Radio 3.

        The binary form melody repeats both halves, and the whole is repeated four times, with a coda added.

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        • Master Jacques
          Full Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 1865

          #5
          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          Repeats the same melody 17 times? What a numpty. Clearly unfit to be on Radio 3.
          To be quite fair, he might only be the chap who is thoughtlessly reading words provided by a numpty!

          The binary form melody repeats both halves, and the whole is repeated four times, with a coda added.
          That sounds terribly "elitist" to me, Alpensinfonie. You use words such as "binary" and "coda" which are sure to put off R3's 2pm target audience, of 14yo kids bunking off school. Naughty, naughty!

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37559

            #6
            Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
            You use words such as "binary" and "coda" which are sure to put off R3's 2pm target audience, of 14yo kids bunking off school. Naughty, naughty!
            Yes, only people who understand it as appled to the Brexit referendum can understand what binary means.

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              #7
              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
              Yes, only people who understand it as appled to the Brexit referendum can understand what binary means.
              0 1 don't know . . .

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37559

                #8
                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                0 1 don't know . . .


                Six of one, half a dozen of a bit of the other...!

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26514

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
                  Tom McKinney's chummy, introductory words
                  Afternoon Concert with the ideal Penny Gore presenting is one of the increasingly few things I might listen to live on R3 these days... If there’s something which warrants a listen during other weeks, catch-up (skipping other (far) less exemplary presenters than Ms Gore and her team) is essential.
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • LMcD
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                    • Sep 2017
                    • 8396

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                    Repeats the same melody 17 times? What a numpty. Clearly unfit to be on Radio 3.

                    The binary form melody repeats both halves, and the whole is repeated four times, with a coda added.
                    I'm sure you're right, but I'm afraid a 'Desmond' in modern languages at a redbrick university doesn't help me understand what this means - sorry!

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                    • Pulcinella
                      Host
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 10872

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                      I'm sure you're right, but I'm afraid a 'Desmond' in modern languages at a redbrick university doesn't help me understand what this means - sorry!
                      See this thread in Recordings in Discussion:

                      Specifically post #30.

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                      • LMcD
                        Full Member
                        • Sep 2017
                        • 8396

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                        Thank you. Like Manuel, I learn every day!

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                        • DracoM
                          Host
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 12954

                          #13
                          And then there's 'irreVOCably' - where 'VOC' sounds like crOCK' ??

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                            And then there's 'irreVOCably' - where 'VOC' sounds like crOCK' ??
                            An old crock that definitely need revving up.

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                            • jayne lee wilson
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 10711

                              #15
                              There's a US variant of course.....
                              not possible to revoke : unalterable… See the full definition


                              ....easy to see/hear how that one could become more crock than croak.....
                              Personally I do like and tend to say irreVOCable.......​or switch between....
                              Then "irrefutable" tends to go the other way US/UK...!

                              But in the line from EP
                              Nothing but death is irrevocable

                              ....probably works best in the English manner, stressed "E"....

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