Afternoon on 3, standard of introductions

[Master Jacques]

I have to say that Tom McKinney's chummy, introductory words to the performance of Ravel's Bolero just now - whoever wrote them - set for me a new bar for low-brow, sneering populism.

To suggest (1) that respectable medical research shows that the piece is the product of mental illness, and (2) that it simply "repeats a tune 17 times" (ignoring the fact that the interest of the piece lies mainly in its wonderful orchestration and harmonic daring) is the height of crass inanity.

R3 has a duty to educate as well as entertain. This insultingly stupid introduction did neither, and made this listener for one despair at the increasingly poor quality of "programme notes" on the channel.

They might as well hand the franchise over to the Daily Mail and have done with it.

[Cockney Sparrow]

Do you think a thread named "New low points in post midday programme presentation on R3" would be useful? (Or perhaps this thread could be renamed).

[oddoneout]

Is the morning malaise spreading?

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Repeats the same melody 17 times? What a numpty. Clearly unfit to be on Radio 3.

The binary form melody repeats both halves, and the whole is repeated four times, with a coda added.

[Master Jacques]

Repeats the same melody 17 times? What a numpty. Clearly unfit to be on Radio 3.

To be quite fair, he might only be the chap who is thoughtlessly reading words provided by a numpty!

The binary form melody repeats both halves, and the whole is repeated four times, with a coda added.

That sounds terribly "elitist" to me, Alpensinfonie. You use words such as "binary" and "coda" which are sure to put off R3's 2pm target audience, of 14yo kids bunking off school. Naughty, naughty!

[Serial_Apologist]

You use words such as "binary" and "coda" which are sure to put off R3's 2pm target audience, of 14yo kids bunking off school. Naughty, naughty!

Yes, only people who understand it as appled to the Brexit referendum can understand what binary means.

[Bryn]

Yes, only people who understand it as appled to the Brexit referendum can understand what binary means.

0 1 don't know . . .

[Serial_Apologist]

0 1 don't know . . .

Six of one, half a dozen of a bit of the other...!

[Nick Armstrong]

Tom McKinney's chummy, introductory words

Afternoon Concert with the ideal Penny Gore presenting is one of the increasingly few things I might listen to live on R3 these days... If there’s something which warrants a listen during other weeks, catch-up (skipping other (far) less exemplary presenters than Ms Gore and her team) is essential.

[LMcD]

Repeats the same melody 17 times? What a numpty. Clearly unfit to be on Radio 3.

The binary form melody repeats both halves, and the whole is repeated four times, with a coda added.

I'm sure you're right, but I'm afraid a 'Desmond' in modern languages at a redbrick university doesn't help me understand what this means - sorry!

[Pulcinella]

I'm sure you're right, but I'm afraid a 'Desmond' in modern languages at a redbrick university doesn't help me understand what this means - sorry!

See this thread in Recordings in Discussion:

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?20498-Ravel-s-Bolero

Specifically post #30.

[LMcD]

See this thread in Recordings in Discussion:

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?20498-Ravel-s-Bolero

Specifically post #30.

Thank you. Like Manuel, I learn every day!

[DracoM]

And then there's 'irreVOCably' - where 'VOC' sounds like crOCK' ??

[Bryn]

And then there's 'irreVOCably' - where 'VOC' sounds like crOCK' ??

An old crock that definitely need revving up.

[jayne lee wilson]

There's a US variant of course.....

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irrevocable

....easy to see/hear how that one could become more crock than croak.....
Personally I do like and tend to say irreVOCable.......or switch between....
Then "irrefutable" tends to go the other way US/UK...!

But in the line from EP
Nothing but death is irrevocable

....probably works best in the English manner, stressed "E"....