Radio 3 Programming - Problems & Solutions

[oddoneout]

Strictly speaking his should go in the EC thread but it possibly isn't entirely unconnected with this topic.
I don't know what the lead up was but Mr Skelly read out a title 'How to think like a vegetable', followed by a tiny pause and then, almost sotto voce 'could be useful down here'.

[MrGongGong]

Gongers' argument that people don't listen to radio if they want full-length works is simply a reflection that BBC radio does indeed 'go with the flow' - what the world in general does. But that doesn't alter my opinion that Radio 3 should offer more than that. That is the point of education - and the BBC hasn't helped Radio 3 by largely abandoning any attempt to educate about classical music on the mainstream. It subjects itself to the 'tyranny of the majority'. It offers an odd programme or a short 'season' now and again. I do think that the Ten Pieces project is a good one but it's a crumb rather than a loaf.

Meanwhile, Radio 3 diminishes, and is diminished. All in my view, of course

I'm not sure that playing "full-length" works IS "education" ?
I'm all for education (it would be a bit daft if I wasn't) but the idea (to misquote someone who is often heard on R3 ) that all we have to do is to drop "great" music from the skies and people will recognise it for what it is and be "converts" is magical thinking.

So, YES to more education (which ISN'T just about children either) and more interesting contextualisation of musics including Beethoven , Walton etc etc etc

[french frank]

I'm not sure that playing "full-length" works IS "education" ?

It would teach people that the composer composed a longer work than the Elvira Madigan theme, which fits into an overall pattern common in certain respects to the 'classic' piano concerto. And that might accustom them to sitting down more often to listen for half an hour instead of expecting a complete change after 6 minutes. If not 'education' you could call it 'expanding horizons'. That's not so far from the original meaning of educare, orig. e-ducere.

[MrGongGong]

It would teach people that the composer composed a longer work than the Elvira Madigan theme, which fits into an overall pattern common in certain respects to the 'classic' piano concerto. And that might accustom them to sitting down more often to listen for half an hour instead of expecting a complete change after 6 minutes. If not 'education' you could call it 'expanding horizons'. That's not so far from the original meaning of educare, orig. e-ducere.

That's a bit lightweight
I would go for this, music isn't necessarily a narrative, a story or expression of a specific emotion ... it can be a "place to be"

[french frank]

That's a bit lightweight
I would go for this, music isn't necessarily a narrative, a story or expression of a specific emotion ... it can be a "place to be"

What you're saying is that you have a personal preference Not an reasoned argument.

[MrGongGong]

What you're saying is that you have a personal preference Not an reasoned argument.

I don't think we live in an age where "reasoned argument" holds much sway

Come to Noisefloor and play some balloonmusic

[french frank]

I don't think we live in an age where "reasoned argument" holds much sway

True, o Prince.

That's a bit lightweight Come to Noisefloor and play some balloonmusic

[Serial_Apologist]

That's a bit lightweight
I would go for this, music isn't necessarily a narrative, a story or expression of a specific emotion ... it can be a "place to be"

Personally (like ff, I think), for reasons probably too complex to delve into here, I tend to prefer "music as narrative", but for non-goal-centredness I tend to go for totally improvised music, which for me fulfils two requirements not met by much of today's other "new music", in that, for both makers and listeners, it is focussed on the moment of creation, it is spontaneous (like nature in its manner of operation, into which we are effectively tuning our own), and it is collective (in bonding people together, both the musicians and those listening to it).

[antongould]

Strictly speaking his should go in the EC thread but it possibly isn't entirely unconnected with this topic.
I don't know what the lead up was but Mr Skelly read out a title 'How to think like a vegetable', followed by a tiny pause and then, almost sotto voce 'could be useful down here'.

Top Man ....... IMVVHO of course .....

[LezLee]

Strictly speaking his should go in the EC thread but it possibly isn't entirely unconnected with this topic.
I don't know what the lead up was but Mr Skelly read out a title 'How to think like a vegetable', followed by a tiny pause and then, almost sotto voce 'could be useful down here'.

It was a reference to a concert at the Oxford May festival featuring Wolf-Ferrari's Chamber Symphony preceded by: "How to think like a vegetable (could be useful down here) - fun for all the family and the contents of your fridge".

Can you imagine Ms Klein saying anything like this?

[LMcD]

It was a reference to a concert at the Oxford May festival featuring Wolf-Ferrari's Chamber Symphony preceded by: "How to think like a vegetable (could be useful down here) - fun for all the family and the contents of your fridge".

Can you imagine Ms Klein saying anything like this?

I think she would almost certainly have shelved that particular suggestion.

[cloughie]

I think she would almost certainly have shelved that particular suggestion.

With hopefully a very short shelf-life and will now be happily composting.

[LMcD]

With hopefully a very short shelf-life and will now be happily composting.

Manure quick off the mark as usual, cloughie!

[DracoM]

Q: how many times have Forumistas signed in to find NO new messages overnight??

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Q: how many times have Forumistas signed in to find NO new messages overnight??

I use the "What's New?" facility to find new Threads, DracoM - and there are occasions when it shows "No New Threads", whilst going to the various Boards under "Forum", it's clear that there have been several. Is that the sort of thing you mean? I think that these glitches have something to do with occasions when the Forum hasn't fully loaded the first time, and has another go, and shows the message because no new messages have been posted in the few seconds between the first attempt and the successful one.

I'm talking off the top of my head (and, very possibly, from a completely different part of my anatomy) but these "glitches" are few and far between, seem to be harmless, and don't affect my subsequent use of the Forum, so I've never really investigated further.