Radio 3 Programming - Problems & Solutions

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  • doversoul1
    Ex Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 7132

    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
    Hummm
    I have an LP of this

    La Monte Young (*1935): Drift Study 31 I 69 12:17:30 - 12:49:58 PM NYC (1969).****The music published in our channel is exclusively dedicated to divulgation ...


    (WARNING contains FLASHING images and quite loud audio)

    It doesn't work anything like as well as online versions

    Yes, this is a pretty extreme example BUT for long form musics the internet has enabled wonderful things that go against the recieved wisdom of "attention spans"
    It sounds as if it is a question of who is receiving which wisdom.

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    • MrGongGong
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      Originally posted by doversoul1 View Post
      It sounds as if it is a question of who is receiving which wisdom.
      Tomorrow i'm doing another 1 hour performance with Carnatic singing, drones, field recordings and a cellist
      what happens in these gigs is that people slow down and listen for extended periods
      It IS different to most of the music that folks hear everyday BUT that's the point

      It's very easy for people to bemoan the "short attention spans" of our age BUT I would argue that this is more to do with context than anything else
      people use radio in different ways than they used to

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      • LezLee
        Full Member
        • Apr 2019
        • 634

        Those dratted drones get everywhere

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        • doversoul1
          Ex Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 7132

          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          Tomorrow i'm doing another 1 hour performance with Carnatic singing, drones, field recordings and a cellist
          what happens in these gigs is that people slow down and listen for extended periods
          It IS different to most of the music that folks hear everyday BUT that's the point

          It's very easy for people to bemoan the "short attention spans" of our age BUT I would argue that this is more to do with context than anything else
          people use radio in different ways than they used to
          I think the ‘short attention spans’ is the excuse used by Radio 3 / BBC.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30301

            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
            people use radio in different ways than they used to
            Yes, they're used to it being background music: they can tune in and tune out at will. But that's because the vast majority never listen to any single piece of music that is supposed to be listened to for longer than 10 minutes.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • MrGongGong
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 18357

              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              Yes, they're used to it being background music: they can tune in and tune out at will. But that's because the vast majority never listen to any single piece of music that is supposed to be listened to for longer than 10 minutes.
              Is that "opinion" or "fact" ?


              It could be that the context for extended listening is no longer the radio?

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              • antongould
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 8785

                Originally posted by doversoul1 View Post
                I think the ‘short attention spans’ is the excuse used by Radio 3 / BBC.
                No they exist ..... I have a family awash with them ....

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                • Bryn
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  Originally posted by antongould View Post
                  No they exist ..... I have a family awash with them ....
                  Sorry, I list you after "exist" . . .

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                  • antongould
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 8785

                    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                    Sorry, I list you after "exist" . . .
                    ... and I lost you after sorry ...

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20570

                      Returning to the thread’s headline:

                      The solution:

                      Sack every presenter who calls a Radio 3 programme a “show”.
                      Ban broadcasts of bleeding chunks and single movements from longer works.
                      Adopt a weekly format on the lines of pre-2000 programming.
                      Ditch chumminess, giggling, insulting and patronising the listeners.
                      Restrict texting, tweeting and emailing to the gathering of information, but never read them out on air.
                      No talking over music at any time.

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        Originally posted by antongould View Post
                        ... and I lost you after sorry ...
                        Touché.

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                        • antongould
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 8785

                          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                          Returning to the thread’s headline:

                          The solution:

                          Sack every presenter who calls a Radio 3 programme a “show”.
                          Ban broadcasts of bleeding chunks and single movements from longer works.
                          Adopt a weekly format on the lines of pre-2000 programming.
                          Ditch chumminess, giggling, insulting and patronising the listeners.
                          Restrict texting, tweeting and emailing to the gathering of information, but never read them out on air.
                          .... and in your honest opinion, which I respect, would that increase the number of listeners ... ???

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                          • antongould
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 8785

                            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                            Touché.
                            Whatever I have 5 well educated children who have the attention spans of gnats ... maybe it’s all my fault ...

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              Originally posted by antongould View Post
                              .... and in your honest opinion, which I respect, would that increase the number of listeners ... ???
                              Quality, not quantity.

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                              • antongould
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8785

                                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                                Quality, not quantity.
                                I couldn’t in all honesty claim any of them as Quality

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