Excuse me, Tom Service, do you mean "south-east" of the country?, not south west as you said? (Berlioz's home town, which is near Grenoble as any fule no).
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... a bit of a faff to get to, but if you are in the vicinity - vaut le détour. Possibly could be idyllic for the very young, but, with a population of some 3,800 when he was a child there, you see why it was a town from which Berlioz was desperate to escape to get to Paris...Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
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I suppose I must have passed not too far away on the TGV to Grenoble (en route to Briançon, to join the GR5)....Comment
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... and have you walked the 450 miles of the GR5????Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
No - my two companions and I did about a week, from Briançon to St Sauveur sur Tinée, from where we took a bus to Nice. We did cross with an English schoolmaster (in St Etienne sur Tinée) on his summer hols who was doing Nice-Geneva 
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There's been quite a lot of discussion lately about whether the leader of one of our political parties or his party as a whole is anti-Semetic (sic).Comment
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Yes, I've baulked at that a few time, too. Makes me want to reach for an antiemetic.Originally posted by LMcD View PostComment
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Yesterday on Afternoon on 3, Penny Gore announced that Frank Peter Zimmerman would play Bartók’s first violin concerto, and described the background to its composition. What we then heard was FPZ playing Prokofiev’s first violin concerto.
Gore then back-announced the work as the Bartók (with another brief reference to its background), before introducing FPZ playing a Prokofiev encore.
A correction came only later, with Gore saying that investigations were underway as to how this could have happened. What she didn’t explain was how neither she nor her producer could have failed to realise from the very first, immediately recognisable, bars that they were listening to Prokofiev, and therefore to make a correction immediately afterwards. Presumably they had to wait for their listener to email etc in to point it out. (Wasn’t me - I was listening last night).
No outcome of the ‘investigation’ was reported. And the iplayer is still showing Bartók (perhaps they don’t bother correcting it now that we’re all being directed towards BBC Zounds and Gadzooks).Comment
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Could it be that the announcements by PG were recorded separately (that is, not live) from the music which is on a separate computer feed?Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
A couple of times I have heard music sections of TTN on air with 30 second gaps in between - I assume for this reason.
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While the TtN presentation is recorded in advance, I am not aware of this being the standard case regarding Afternoon on 3. However, it does seem possible that NDR supplied the wrong listing with their recording supplied to the Beeb.Originally posted by kernelbogey View PostComment
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I'm not sure how much is still played on CD players and what is set up in advance on the 'playout' which, being an automated system, is left to do its thing while presenter and production staff are not actually listening to the music/don't have their headphones on/have gone out to get a cup of tea. Given that the playlist lists the Bartók, it would suggest that the wrong CD was selected for the automated system.Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
But. I don't know whether it is an automated system on weekday afternoons
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It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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This looks like a likely source for at least part of the broadcast i question: http://krzysztofurbanski.com/wp/inde...018/03/22/876/ . A search for the same crew playing the Bartok (other than the wrong listing for yesterday's Afternoon on 3) was fruitless.Comment
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I'll attempt a compendious reply to all the above.
It was clear that PG was 'live' in the studio (hence the belated correction). It seems unlikely that they pre-record some of the links when the presenter is, er, present in real time.
Further, as Bryn has surmised, they were broadcasting a recording of a complete concert from the Elbphilharmonie, so it wasn't a case of putting the wrong CD in. It's a mystery how the VC came to be listed and announced as Bartók 1, again as Bryn says.
And the Ivesian question remains: assuming that Penny Gore at least stuck around for the opening bars before shucking the cans and settling down for a chat over a cuppa, how on earth did neither she nor anyone else in the studio recognise the opening bars as those of Prokofiev VC1, not Bartók, so as to be able to do an immediate correction, instead of repeating the mistake post-performance? Further evidence, surely, of a worrying shallowness of knowledge at Radio 3.Comment
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Incidentally, it was a pretty good concert, and was followed by extracts from another from the same venue, featuring a decent Planets (fairly well received) and a suite from Star Wars (greeted with cheers and whoops).Comment
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