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  • DracoM
    Host
    • Mar 2007
    • 12965

    #76
    What is SO scary is how close to W1A R3's whole mindset / verbalising is, the presentation style, wording, trails etc.

    Eddie Mair, Jane Garvey, and Paddy O'Connell are IMO the only three presenters on BBC radio who have an ironic, self-deprecating, clever, less-is-more style that attracts and keeps listeners.

    Most of the others are rent-a-presenta yawny guff.

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26524

      #77
      Originally posted by DracoM View Post
      What is SO scary is how close to W1A R3's whole mindset / verbalising is, the presentation style, wording, trails etc.
      Exactly what shook me this morning, still chuckling at the excellent W1A Episode 3 watched last night - when I fleetingly heard poor lost Rob Cowan forced to witter about pigeons and feet or something...


      Originally posted by DracoM View Post
      only three presenters on BBC radio who have an ironic, self-deprecating, clever, less-is-more style
      Would you not add Mr Skelly to your list?
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • antongould
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 8780

        #78
        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
        Exactly what shook me this morning, still chuckling at the excellent W1A Episode 3 watched last night - when I fleetingly heard poor lost Rob Cowan forced to witter about pigeons and feet or something...




        Would you not add Mr Skelly to your list?
        IMVVHO another fine 3 mornings on Breakfast from Skellers .... very self deprecating .... Lady Skelly not allowing him to get above his station ....

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        • oddoneout
          Full Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 9152

          #79
          Originally posted by antongould View Post
          IMVVHO another fine 3 mornings on Breakfast from Skellers .... very self deprecating .... Lady Skelly not allowing him to get above his station ....
          And in how many households across the land is 'Yes but they don't have to live with you' heard? Good thing there's the airwaves to share his bon mots and witticisms.

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          • DracoM
            Host
            • Mar 2007
            • 12965

            #80
            Well, Alyn Shipton, Verity Sharp, Martin Handley and Jonathan Swain are still at the top of my list. No gush, mix of formal and informal, less-is-more.

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            • underthecountertenor
              Full Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 1584

              #81
              I still like Ian Skelly, but I fear that all the glowing feedback is perhaps in danger of going to his head. He seems to have upped the 'self-deprecating' self-references recently, so that the Breakfast programme in his hands is beginning to feel a bit as if it's all about him. Whereas Petroc Trelawny has if anything been playing a much straighter bat of late. I like them both, but feel that the rush to praise Skelly every time he's on is (in its implications) a touch unfair to Trelawny.

              But, of course, chacun a son goût, and I only venture the above in the interests of balance.

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              • antongould
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 8780

                #82
                Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
                I still like Ian Skelly, but I fear that all the glowing feedback is perhaps in danger of going to his head. He seems to have upped the 'self-deprecating' self-references recently, so that the Breakfast programme in his hands is beginning to feel a bit as if it's all about him. Whereas Petroc Trelawny has if anything been playing a much straighter bat of late. I like them both, but feel that the rush to praise Skelly every time he's on is (in its implications) a touch unfair to Trelawny.

                But, of course, chacun a son goût, and I only venture the above in the interests of balance.
                Very well balanced and more than a smidgen of truth in your observations I feel .....

                To keep the balance absolute we had our third female day this morning and Skellers, possibly, given 200 lines and told to read the News ........

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                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22116

                  #83
                  Originally posted by antongould View Post
                  Very well balanced and more than a smidgen of truth in your observations I feel .....

                  To keep the balance absolute we had our third female day this morning and Skellers, possibly, given 200 lines and told to read the News ........
                  Does he perhaps see himself as the Wogan of R3?

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                  • Quarky
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 2657

                    #84
                    Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
                    I still like Ian Skelly, but I fear that all the glowing feedback is perhaps in danger of going to his head. He seems to have upped the 'self-deprecating' self-references recently, so that the Breakfast programme in his hands is beginning to feel a bit as if it's all about him. Whereas Petroc Trelawny has if anything been playing a much straighter bat of late. I like them both, but feel that the rush to praise Skelly every time he's on is (in its implications) a touch unfair to Trelawny.

                    But, of course, chacun a son goût, and I only venture the above in the interests of balance.
                    Agreed.

                    Sometimes I feel Skellers, Martin Handley and others exert an hypnotic effect on their listeners, and once the audience has been captured - well they can play any old tripe, and the listeners will love it.
                    ....perhaps I should rephrase that to say..... They can play any well-known items from the core reperoire, and the audience will love it. They needn't try to find unusual musical items which might tempt jaded pallets
                    Last edited by Quarky; 09-10-17, 11:44.

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                    • antongould
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 8780

                      #85
                      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                      Does he perhaps see himself as the Wogan of R3?

                      You may well be, yet again, right cloughers ...... but to a half-wit like me he seems rather knowledgeable ...... ????

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                      • underthecountertenor
                        Full Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1584

                        #86
                        Originally posted by antongould View Post
                        Very well balanced and more than a smidgen of truth in your observations I feel .....

                        To keep the balance absolute we had our third female day this morning and Skellers, possibly, given 200 lines and told to read the News ........
                        Thank you!

                        I'm afraid that Georgia Mann did not cover herself in glory this morning, however. In particular there was one howler when she post-announced an oddly chosen snippet from Act II of La Traviata as having been sung by 'Violetta Veealery (sic) and Plácido Domingo'. It was in fact Ileana Cotrubas as Violetta with Sherrill Milnes as Germont Père. Domingo didn't feature in the extract at all. I can't see either Skelly or Trelawny getting that one so horribly wrong.

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                        • underthecountertenor
                          Full Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1584

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Vespare View Post
                          Agreed.

                          Sometimes I feel Skellers, Martin Handley and others exert an hypnotic effect on their listeners, and once the audience has been captured - well they can play any old tripe, and the listeners will love it.

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22116

                            #88
                            Originally posted by antongould View Post
                            You may well be, yet again, right cloughers ...... but to a half-wit like me he seems rather knowledgeable ...... ????
                            So was Wogan!

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                            • cloughie
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22116

                              #89
                              Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
                              Thank you!

                              I'm afraid that Georgia Mann did not cover herself in glory this morning, however. In particular there was one howler when she post-announced an oddly chosen snippet from Act II of La Traviata as having been sung by 'Violetta Veealery (sic) and Plácido Domingo'. It was in fact Ileana Cotrubas as Violetta with Sherrill Milnes as Germont Père. Domingo didn't feature in the extract at all. I can't see either Skelly or Trelawny getting that one so horribly wrong.
                              ...but then who gets it all right all the time, even Mrs C has on very rare occasions been wrong!

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                              • antongould
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8780

                                #90
                                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                                So was Wogan!

                                Indeed he was .......

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