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  • Pulcinella
    Host
    • Feb 2014
    • 10901

    #16
    Originally posted by french frank View Post
    I think the afternoons usually do have advanced playlists, don't they?
    Not always complete; often just for the 'main event', and not what comes after.
    Will be interesting to see how this slot is now filled.

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    • DracoM
      Host
      • Mar 2007
      • 12963

      #17
      Is R3 imagining that everyone who listens to R3 has online access?
      Is the implication behind the 'material will be made available' chest-beating hurray that quite a lot will NOT be accessible to those without online access?
      And why, for crying out loud, has it got to be SM-P to front it...............!!!

      Am not looking forward to this re-vamp as per press mooted, BUT given what has happened in the past, maybe it may all be PR fireworks, cheering, smoke and mirrors but not a lot of substance.

      Seems pretty obvious too that R3 admin take very little if any notice of what listeners seem to state publicly via social media. e.g. T.Service, KD, SM-P have ALL been the subject of weary, regular and unarying dislike for a number of reasons, yet it looks as if each of them is about to be made significantly louder and more visible [ as it were!].
      Last edited by DracoM; 31-08-17, 09:58.

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30255

        #18
        Originally posted by DracoM View Post
        Is R3 imagining that everyone who listens to R3 has online access?
        Is the implication behind the 'material will be made available' chest-beating hurray that quite a lot will NOT be accessible to those without online access?
        Where else could it be available? It does appear that the programme itself will be centred on choral and organ music.

        Originally posted by DracoM View Post
        Seems pretty obvious too that R3 admin take very little if any notice of what listeners seem to state publicly via social media. e.g. T.Service, KD, SM-P have ALL been the subject of weary, regular and unarying dislike for a number of reasons, yet it looks as if each of them is about to be made significantly louder and more visible [ as it were!].
        I think they're more likely to go by general listening figures than what people say on social media. If people grumble, but still listen to the programme, they give a false(?) sense of broad approval.

        Pulcie: the press pack says: "From the 11 September, Afternoon on 3 will be re-named Afternoon Concert, where concert works and unique performances will be presented in full. The programme will be extended by an extra half-hour, running from 2 until 5pm."

        It also says (thanks to Honoured Guest for pointing this out): "From 4 October, listeners will be able to enjoy a weekly Wednesday afternoon programme from 4.30 until 5pm dedicated entirely to BBC New Generation Artists. The show will cast a spotlight on brand new recordings by current New Generation Artists as well as gems from the ever-expanding NGA archive." So no change to the timing of Choral Evensong.
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • vinteuil
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12798

          #19
          Originally posted by DracoM View Post

          Seems pretty obvious too that R3 admin take very little if any notice of what listeners seem to state publicly via social media. e.g. T.Service, KD, SM-P have ALL been the subject of weary, regular and unarying dislike for a number of reasons, yet it looks as if each of them is about to be made significantly louder and more visible [ as it were!].
          ... Rob Cowan will be 70 next year. Retirement long over-due.


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          • Stanfordian
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 9309

            #20
            Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
            https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...chanting-monks

            Hmmm. I'd still prefer to have more Discovering Music style features, which R4 seems to do more of than R3 of late (Tom Service's babbling Listening Disservice doesn't count).

            I'll be sorry to lose the alternating James Jolly/Jonathan Swain on Sunday mornings, too. I thought they put together well thought out programmes with good variety and intelligent interludes.
            You can be sure that any changes afoot at Radio 3 will involve widening the scope of the music played at the expense of the classical music we have become used to.

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            • Old Grumpy
              Full Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 3601

              #21
              Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
              You can be sure that any changes afoot at Radio 3 will involve widening the scope of the music played at the expense of the classical music we have become used to.
              A good thing, then? Broaden our horizons...

              OG

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              • Frances_iom
                Full Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 2411

                #22
                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                ... Rob Cowan will be 70 next year. Retirement long over-due.
                .
                no he is ideal for the 'hospital radio' style adopted in the morning on R3 - if they want numbers just go after the audience ditched by the new 'younger audience' R2 - 30sec easy sound bites with limited intellectual depth and expectation + plenty of adverts is what is needed for this audience - but looking at the trajectory taken by R3 management by Wright and it now appears by current management it would seem that this has been the plan for the last 5 years or longer.

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                • vinteuil
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12798

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Frances_iom View Post
                  no he is ideal for the 'hospital radio' style adopted in the morning on R3...
                  ... when / if I find myself in hospital, the worst thing will be 'hospital radio'. Imagine being in a conscious vegetative state, able to hear but not to utter, subjected to....

                  :horroremoticon:

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                  • Serial_Apologist
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37628

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                    You can be sure that any changes afoot at Radio 3 will involve widening the scope of the music played at the expense of the classical music we have become used to.
                    In the famous words of Robert Wyatt's Soft Machine song "Why are we sleeping?": "Making things better by making them worse".

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                    • teamsaint
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25200

                      #25
                      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                      ... Rob Cowan will be 70 next year. Retirement long over-due.


                      .
                      That's money purchase pension schemes for you.
                      Better get used to having a few familiar faces round the place........
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22116

                        #26
                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                        ... Rob Cowan will be 70 next year. Retirement long over-due.


                        .
                        Don't hold out your hopes - this is the BBC - Humphrys and the Dimbleby brothers are much older and still very much around.

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                        • hmvman
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 1099

                          #27
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          ... This is the full blurb on Choir and Organ:

                          This Autumn will see the advent of a brand new concept in Radio 3 programme making. Sundays are traditionally a day of rest and reflection, and a brand new programme Choir and Organ, will pick up on the pure musical joy of choral and organ music. It is the first time Radio 3 has had a dedicated slot for organ music in a weekly show. In each programme, Sara Mohr-Pietsch will present an extensive range of choral or organ music. To complement the on-air show, additional supporting material will be created for specialist listeners or for those who want to dig deeper; this will include interviews, features and will build each week to develop an ongoing library of information, all available online. Information relevant to the music in the programmes on air will also be posted, and will build a tremendous resource for beginners and choral and organ scholars alike.
                          I recall that in the '70s there was a weekly (Wednesdays I think) morning organ music programme (it was a 'programme' then, not a 'show'). I suppose that was an organ programme in its own right rather than a 'slot' in a 'show'.

                          This new 'Mixtape' segment of 'In Tune' sounds like a resurrection of the much-loved-and-missed (by this listener) 'Homeward Bound' so it's something to look forward to.

                          In all the stuff about presenters there was no mention of Ian Skelly but I see that he's presenting 'In Tune' next week so is he going to be the replacement for La Klein, I wonder?

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30255

                            #28
                            You're right - looking randomly in 1974-75-76 there was a 40-minute programme on … Wednesdays. I think the MixTape is supposed to be a Rivulet of Music, like the River of Music but smaller.

                            I was wondering who would be the In Tune co-host too. Incidently, Raffers will be celebrating his 20th year on the shshshow this year .

                            Originally posted by hmvman View Post
                            I recall that in the '70s there was a weekly (Wednesdays I think) morning organ music programme (it was a 'programme' then, not a 'show'). I suppose that was an organ programme in its own right rather than a 'slot' in a 'show'.

                            This new 'Mixtape' segment of 'In Tune' sounds like a resurrection of the much-loved-and-missed (by this listener) 'Homeward Bound' so it's something to look forward to.

                            In all the stuff about presenters there was no mention of Ian Skelly but I see that he's presenting 'In Tune' next week so is he going to be the replacement for La Klein, I wonder?
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Lat-Literal
                              Guest
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 6983

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Globaltruth View Post
                              Kraftwerk :goofy:
                              Errr......yes, ish.

                              It is how I am content to stretch it but I'm not entirely sure that R3 can do so and please the purists.

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30255

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                                No mention of world music or jazz music.
                                There is some:

                                WORLD

                                In October, World on 3 returns to WOMEX, the World Music Expo highlighting the newest musical talent, this year held in Katowice, Poland.
                                In November, World on 3 will broadcast a concert recording from the Darbar Festival profiling leading performers of Indian classical music, and in January will return to Celtic Connections festival in Glasgow. Taking place over eighteen days from the 19 January to 5 February 2018, presenters Lopa Kothari and Kathryn Tickell will present live sessions with some of the festival’s top artists from the BBC Music Hub.

                                BBC Introducing on World on 3
                                A special collaboration between BBC Radio 3 and BBC Introducing was launched in January 2015 to help discover and champion emerging roots-based talent around the UK, which sees BBC Introducing artists record special live sessions for World on 3.
                                BBC Introducing artist, Kora player Sefo Kanuteh, will be recording his first live session on World on 3 this Autumn. Born and raised in Gambia, Kanuteh has previously collaborated with celebrated Senegalese singer Baaba Maal, and fellow Kora-player Ami Koite. In addition to the Kora, Kanuteh regularly experiments with a range of instruments to create unique sounds including the recorder, harp and guitar.

                                JAZZ

                                This Autumn, Radio 3 will mark the centenaries of the births of three jazz greats: Dizzie Gillespie, Buddy Rich and Thelonius Monk.
                                In November, as part of the EFG London Jazz Festival, Max Reinhardt will host a special live edition of Radio 3’s experimental music programme, Late Junction, from the stage of East London’s popular arts venue, Rich Mix. The BBC Concert Orchestra will present a family concert featuring the premiere of a specially-commissioned work by saxophonist and composer Trish Clowes.
                                Further programming to be announced shortly.
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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