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  • Beef Oven!
    Ex-member
    • Sep 2013
    • 18147

    Originally posted by jean View Post
    Who are 'we', and when was this?
    We are the Proms audience.

    It certainly is, even if there's not much left to say about it!
    There will always be people who can’t move on.

    I'm quite positive about some of the things you urge us to be positive about, though I'm not sure that 'positivity' is a virtue in and of itself.
    I didn’t speak of virtues. I spoke about positivity, in this context.

    What I have been most negative about on this thread has been Mr GG's negativity towards people who disagree with him.
    What planet are you on!!!!!!

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 20570

      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
      We are the Proms audience.
      What all 5,000+ of them?



      There will always be people who can’t move on.
      Too right! If something isn't right, we should never move on.

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      • Beef Oven!
        Ex-member
        • Sep 2013
        • 18147

        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        What all 5,000+ of them?
        Why don’t you come to one, one day? Then you will be able to comment with some credibility


        Too right! If something isn't right, we should never move on.
        Things change, and we change with them.

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        • Cockney Sparrow
          Full Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 2284

          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          FFS I couldn't give a toss about whether people "agree" or disagree with me
          people can think what they like
          and I really don't care whether you like the same things at all...........
          I have to say, I usually skip your posts. and any responses to them. Life is too short....... (I don't want to be gratuitously offensive but, given the above......).

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          • Beef Oven!
            Ex-member
            • Sep 2013
            • 18147

            Originally posted by Cockney Sparrow View Post
            I have to say, I usually skip your posts. and any responses to them. Life is too short....... (I don't want to be gratuitously offensive but, given the above......).
            I think you are missing the point .....

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30302

              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
              Why can’t we be more positive, or at least wait before consigning things to the dustbin? It just feels strange to have this sort of mindset in a forum like this. I wouldn’t have expected this forum to be like this. I expect more open-mindedness, curiosity and positivity.
              More positive - what percentage would be right? I said it broke about 50:50 but you keep mentioning only the negative - almost as if you didn't notice any positive comments. Which provoked my remark that people are inclined to notice (even inflate the importance of?) the comments that they disagree with.

              Negativity towards a programme one didn't enjoy very much isn't necessarily a sign of narrowmindedness, any more than enjoying lots of things is a sign of open-mindedness. It just indicates personal taste, doesn't it?

              Some people were constantly attacking other people's comments on the programme without at any point showing any sign at all that they listened to it themselves. Now that mindset certainly seemed to lack open-mindedness, curiosity and positivity.
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • oddoneout
                Full Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 9205

                Something I found rather odd was that although I was coming at this exercise 'blind' in that I had read nothing about it beforehand and knew that it was happening only from mentions on R3 I must at some stage have built up an expectation of what it would be like - and was rather disappointed. Now I'm trying to fathom out why exactly.

                However, as I've said before, I still think it was worth doing.

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                • Beresford
                  Full Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 555

                  Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                  ... I must at some stage have built up an expectation of what it would be like - and was rather disappointed. Now I'm trying to fathom out why exactly.
                  I had the same feeling, and I don't know why. Maybe it was all the prior mentions raising my expectations, or maybe it was all the historic(?) performances. I wonder what the reaction would have been if R3 had just done it, without any trails or blogs.

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26538

                    Crikey - not having been radio-listening for some days, this 'River' idea (and this thread) had largely passed me by. From that position on the river bank, I'm surprised how troubled the waters are (having glanced through a few pages below)...

                    Looking down the playlists, it seems to me that (bar the odd item like the Dr Who theme), I could achieve almost exactly the same thing by sticking my ipod on 'shuffle' ... so I'm not distraught at having missed it (ditto the slightly bad-tempered reaction to it )
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • ardcarp
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11102

                      Not everyone was anti, Calibs. Some of us went with the flow.

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26538

                        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                        Not everyone was anti, Calibs. Some of us went with the flow.
                        Absolutely.

                        Paddling one's own canoe seems the best way.

                        (Have the river puns been done to death earlier in the thread? Or was ferney away too...? )
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • kernelbogey
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 5749

                          I recognise that I'm apt to criticise BBC activities here without necessarily saying what I like, and perhaps could be more balanced, nuanced. I liked the river sufficiently to become hooked on listening for about the last five hours, dipping in and out of playlist and blog as I went. It was a good idea, and although I thought some aspects could have beeen better handled, and said so, I think it a sufficiently interesting concept to be adapted for regular broadcasts, as others have said. Over the years there has been much posting about too much chatter and listener involvement, and here is an idea for a regular slot of music uninterrupted by talk.

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                            (Have the river puns been done to death earlier in the thread? Or was ferney away too...? )


                            eh?!




                            No - I've mostly just been enjoying the pantomime of the Thread: the project didn't appeal, so I did other things instead (including listening to the completed Bruckner Ninth ... in Dee minor).

                            I do think twelve hours was a little excessive - I'd've thought severn would've been enough (to prevent it becoming a Bore). But what do I know - the Thames they are a changing, and Wear just going to have to adapt to them. Ure never going to get consensus on this: Ouse station is it, anyway; ours not to reason Wye ... we'll all be Calder order in the end, thank Avons for small Merseys. But I do think we need to meet Medway and not insult other Forumistas, even if we don't agree Witham, as I was only saying to my exe.



                            (You had to open the locked door in the cellar didn't you! Stand back! The floodgates have been opened .... )
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20570

                              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post


                              eh?!




                              No - I've mostly just been enjoying the pantomime of the Thread: the project didn't appeal, so I did other things instead (including listening to the completed Bruckner Ninth ... in Dee minor).

                              I do think twelve hours was a little excessive - I'd've thought severn would've been enough (to prevent it becoming a Bore). But what do I know - the Thames they are a changing, and Wear just going to have to adapt to them. Ure never going to get consensus on this: Ouse station is it, anyway; ours not to reason Wye ... we'll all be Calder order in the end, thank Avons for small Merseys. But I do think we need to meet Medway and not insult other Forumistas, even if we don't agree Witham, as I was only saying to my exe.



                              (You had to open the locked door in the cellar didn't you! Stand back! The floodgates have been opened .... )

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                              • vinteuil
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12844

                                ... me, I'm in de Nile - it's the only thing that stops me going in Seine.

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