Know-nothing presenters

[Petrushka]

Reckon that's one shot for you, Draco!

(Top left-hand square...)

Think we had most of these this year!

[Nick Armstrong]

Whether it's 'know-nothing presenters' or 'know-it-all presenters', what a pleasure today not to have to bale out of Radio 3 at 12.15 to avoid getting Serviced.

Instead, the ideal introductions of John Shea and some new (and excellent) performances of complete works (Brahms in this instance).

I wish it could be Christmas (and New Year) every day.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Whether it's 'know-nothing presenters' or 'know-it-all presenters', what a pleasure today not to have to bale out of Radio 3 at 12.15 to avoid getting Serviced.

Instead, the ideal introductions of John Shea and some new (and excellent) performances of complete works (Brahms in this instance).

I wish it could be Christmas (and New Year) every day.

Perfectly put.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Shouldn't 5 shots no. 4 be "O Come..."?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Whether it's 'know-nothing presenters' or 'know-it-all presenters', what a pleasure today not to have to bale out of Radio 3 at 12.15 to avoid getting Serviced.

??? - unless this a Mod-able double entendre, I don't follow this. (Music Matters has been presented by Sara Mohr-Pietsch for some weeks now - ever since The Listening Service began, perhaps?)

[Nick Armstrong]

??? - unless this a Mod-able double entendre, I don't follow this. (Music Matters has been presented by Sara Mohr-Pietsch for some weeks now - ever since The Listening Service began, perhaps?)

Well she filled in for a couple of weeks, but the full Service was available until 9 Dec and resumes on 6 Jan if the schedule is to be believed

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Well she filled in for a couple of weeks, but the full Service was available until 9 Dec and resumes on 6 Jan if the schedule is to be believed

Oh - apologies: I missed the 9th Dec programme - SM-P also presented MusMatts on the 25th Nov (the "Huddersfield" special). Astonishingly, it was TS who presented the "Harrassment in Classical Music" edition on 2nd Dec, and not SM-P who had hosted a powerful discussion of this very subject at this year's HCMF. A couple of BBC mics at that public discussion would have made for a fascinating if disheartening broadcast; one of the most important of the year on any medium.

[Once Was 4]

Self-elected snobs v. manufactured scorn. I think she was reading more into the headline 'It's all gone Pete Tong', than was intended. Because she wanted to. Yes, it has been used as a jocular expression for 'It's All Gone Wrong', but in this context I think (judging by what followed the headline) it was just being used to describe a Pete Tong-fronted, er, gig

Can you see anything critical about that story? It's promoting the concert, surely?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/11558256/BBC-Proms-its-all-gone-Pete-Tong-at-the-Albert-Hall.html

But perhaps she didn't have time to read the story?

Are people who trawl through the New Years Honours List in the hope of finding somebody from the world of classical music Self-elected snobs? If so, guilty M'lud. I may have missed somebody so apologies if I have but amongst (actually many genuinely deserving people) I can only find one who is loosely connected - Professor John Sloboda from the Guildhall School of Music and Drama. One of my very few claims to fame is that I was once part of the research being undertaken by one of his sidekicks. He asked me to go in at 8.00 on a Sunday morning having been assured that the theatre was open 24 hours per day as it usually was (that is another subject that the public is blissfully unaware of - the techies who regularly work night-shifts for the good of art). Unfortunately that particular Saturday-Sunday night it had not been for whatever reason We could not get in so my interview on coping with stress consisted of watching my interviewer in a public phone box going apoplectic at the orchestra manager who had been roused from his Sunday lie-in with liberal use of the F word! After that I withdrew from the 'interventions'.

But as for the people from the world of the arts who have been deemed worthy of honour - very good in several cases but as for others - F...F...F...F...

[Cockney Sparrow]

The full News Year Honours list can be downloaded here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/new-years-honours-list-2018

Searching on the term "Music" there are quite a lot of awards for services to music. In the case of the one award of an MBE into which I have some insight, it is well deserved. In the PDF I downloaded there are 125 pages, and the OBE starts at page 10, so there are 115 pages of OBE, CBE, MBE awards.

I suppose one can have views that one award of, for example, a knight(or Dame)hood is undeserved over another, but in the OBE, CBE, MBE awards I am unlikely to have much insight -but they seem to be people who would at least have made a contribution in the field.

[french frank]

The emphasis seems to be on administrators and community/regional contribution. High profile performers are a scattering of pop musicians and Anthony Marwood MBE.

[ahinton]

The emphasis seems to be on administrators and community/regional contribution. High profile performers are a scattering of pop musicians and Anthony Marwood MBE.

Indeed; no Sir Anthony Payne, Sir Matthews Matthews, Sir Brian Ferneyhough - no siree!...

But if these "honours" mut be persisted with, why on earth not rename them? What is the point of being the anything of the "British Empire" when no such Empire has effectively existed in decades? When Colin Matthews was awarded an OBE a while ago, I though it rather insulting that it was not a CBE (and they apparently didn't even tell him about it anyway), I wrote to tell him that it was probably an Alphabicycle Order of the British Empire...